The oligarchs will escape. The people up against the wall will be those that are not wealthy enough to escape, but not poor enough to be desperate.
There’s a reason that Orwell was banned in the US for being pro-communist and banned in the USSR for being pro-capitalist. That reason is because Orwell was anti-authoritarian.
I was born in a small village ~200km SE of St Peter back in the soviet days. We got electricity when I was six years old, because my neighbor figured out how to tap into some nearby high voltage lines. After the collapse of the soviet union, I collected enough scholarships and got a visa sponsorship to get a chemical engineering degree in the US. Then I went on to grad school. Then I got the rest of my family out of there. Now I am somewhere in the top 10% of the US.
The only advantage I was born with is above average intelligence and the ability to put it to work. And a bit of luck for everything else to work out.
That is the cost of my comfort. And yes, I am sure that whether leftists or fascists take over, I will be persecuted. Fascists will persecute me because I am not a fascist. Leftists will persecute me because I have done reasonably well for myself, but not well enough to hop on a private jet when the shit hits the fan. That is also the cost of my comfort.
Yeah, everyone except the people that end up against the wall.
More often than not, those people aren’t the ones causing the structural problems in society. The really rich people with the power all escape before that point.
If you can’t tell the difference between someone who doesn’t think the world is 100% bad and trump, then your ideological purity tests are too black and white for us to ever be anything other than enemies. I won’t ever be able to 100% agree with every thought you have. Nor will anyone else.
Yeah, no shit. I do things to improve my life. If you don’t, then you’re either lying or an actual example of capitalist caricatures of leftism, just looking for a handout.
Edit: And if you’re not acting to improve your life and the lives around you, what’s the purpose of revolution? Action for the sake of Action? That’s point #3 on Umberto Eco’s list of the 14 common features of fascism.
What an astute observation! I wouldn’t even describe it as a boil, maybe a light simmer if anything. Because you know what? My life is pretty nice.
So now that we have established that fact, perhaps it would be prudent to consider how you reach the majority of the population that is in my boat (not literally, I mean, when I’m on my boat I’m generally reading a book on my own). But I mean the ones that think like this and don’t read books by Kropotkin.
When I become Jesus Christ, savior, and responsible for the collective sins of humanity.
Until then, I’m responsible for myself, and will act accordingly.
I mean, that was implied. CoughEpsteincough
I am glad that you were able to build a community of your friends and neighbors.
I do not have the time or resources to do so.
So you labeled that as me being a consumer brained idiot on par with Alzheimer’s. Now you’re surprised that my general demeanor towards you is negative?
Okay. I guess your world doesn’t have a place for me then. If it’s camps either way, I’d rather do it the easy way.
Okay. Well, when all your hard work leads to actual tangible results that are better than the status quo, then we’ll talk.
Until then, less blabbing and more sleeve rolling
Yes, I am certain that your life will begin improving measurably when the food runs out.
Okay. Well, when this glorious mythic Revolution begins, we will see what happens. Until the second coming of the Revolution, were stuck in reality. Although it seems some of us might be stuck is a certain level of Revolution Revolution worship.
Revolution.
Oh no no no, when I said killing minorities I meant more along the lines of white guys blowing away anyone that ain’t white through a locked door in self defense.
Correct on all counts.
And yet, the reality is that the collapse of society will lead to even more casualties. The other reality is that I don’t know of a single collapsed society that became altruistic, and did not devolve into local warlord killing each other.
Alternatively, there can be the simple recognition that breaking the system that exists will result in a mass casualty event as current systems keeping the masses alive break down, and the resulting collapse will be capitalized on (lol) by your local warlord.
I’m sure the local warlord will be a great bastion of anti authoritarian praxis.
It would be nice if self defense often meant an abused person ending their abuser, but what it usually looks like is shooting minorities.
I feel like a billionaire pedophile can afford to buy a fall guy to take the death penalty for them.
The problem with “self-defense” is that it is often a “pre-emptive self-defense”, which is indistinguishable from aggression. Especially when it becomes a question of personal self defense using lethal weapons.
Nobody deserves shit. I made the choices I made and got to where I am. A number of kids I grew up with made different choices, and left that village for the first time to go die in Ukraine.
C’est la vie.