A year and a half ago, shortly after the GNOME 45 release, I opened a pair of Pull Requests to deprecate and remove the X11 Session. A lot has happened since. The GNOME 48 release addressed all the remaining blocking issues, mainly accessibility regressions, but it was too late in the development cycle to drop...
I sometimes install some windows programs in lutris. With some apps, the setup.exe wizard shows as a black window. Switching to xorg allows me to run the full setup without issues.
I also remember having issues with Nvidia/gnome and Wayland, but I haven’t tried in a while and the Nvidia driver got updated a few times in the mean time.
Huh, interesting. I have seen the black window thing before but only with electron apps, and those can be told to use in-proc GPU to get around that issue. I assume that’s not the issue you had.
I honestly can’t remember what the exact issue was. I would love to be on Wayland all the time, but I’m still happy to have the xorg session when I need it.
Does it actually play better native than under proton/wine? Should be a dumb question but a lot of the games I’ve tried that are “native” work far better when I force them to use proton than let them be native.
It works better on Native wth?? i used to have issues with that(on kde) but thank you for telling me to try native
but i remember i heard Native is worse due to the oudated OpenGL/Vulkan version and its wayy buggier
BTW wine vanilla and some custom proton builds are adding direct wayland support, just so you know. It’s still experimental but works great for some games, just in case you have others tying you to X.
BTW wine vanilla and some custom proton builds are adding direct wayland support, just so you know. It’s still experimental but works great for some games, just in case you have others tying you to X.
if its a Native SDL game you can force it on Wayland aswell with a launch argument " SDL_VIDEODRIVEVER=wayland" works with Source Games and BeamNG from my testing
What’s stopping you from using wayland, out of interest?
I sometimes install some windows programs in lutris. With some apps, the setup.exe wizard shows as a black window. Switching to xorg allows me to run the full setup without issues.
I also remember having issues with Nvidia/gnome and Wayland, but I haven’t tried in a while and the Nvidia driver got updated a few times in the mean time.
Huh, interesting. I have seen the black window thing before but only with electron apps, and those can be told to use in-proc GPU to get around that issue. I assume that’s not the issue you had.
I honestly can’t remember what the exact issue was. I would love to be on Wayland all the time, but I’m still happy to have the xorg session when I need it.
It’s always preferable to have options, yeah. I so far haven’t found a need to use an xorg session, knock wood.
to run legacy x11 apps that dont work under xwayland??
but ik i can use a lightweight wayland compositor like labwc
I was more wondering like what apps, since I’ve not had trouble myself.
Hadn’t heard of labwc, will have to check it out if I run into issues, thanks.
Yw and the only app(Ik a game but whatever) i have issues with is BeamNG (Native and proton with Vulkan renderer)
Does it actually play better native than under proton/wine? Should be a dumb question but a lot of the games I’ve tried that are “native” work far better when I force them to use proton than let them be native.
It works better on Native wth?? i used to have issues with that(on kde) but thank you for telling me to try native
but i remember i heard Native is worse due to the oudated OpenGL/Vulkan version and its wayy buggier
Glad that’s working out for you. :)
BTW wine vanilla and some custom proton builds are adding direct wayland support, just so you know. It’s still experimental but works great for some games, just in case you have others tying you to X.
if its a Native SDL game you can force it on Wayland aswell with a launch argument " SDL_VIDEODRIVEVER=wayland" works with Source Games and BeamNG from my testing
Ohh! Nice to know! Might try that with War Thunder tomorrow. No clue if that’s SDL or not.