SlAvA UkrAnI!

  • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Zelenskyy didn’t cancel elections, though. They’re legally forbidden in Ukraine during martial law, which is only still in effect because Russia is still invading. If anyone canceled Ukrainian elections, it’s Putin because the choice for Ukraine was either submit and lose elections permanently or resist and enact martial law, losing them temporarily.

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        19 hours ago

        Yeah, not every nation wants to deal with securing elections in an active war zone, especially against an opponent heavily incentivized and willing to put their thumb on the scale however they can.

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          Yeah not every nation wants to do that. Some nations are fascist dictatorships.

          Put that right next to ‘two things can be true at once’ in the library of trying to conjure thoughts from nothing but pure passive voice.

          especially against an opponent heavily incentivized and willing to put their thumb on the scale however they can

          Sorry you’re not allowed to have a democracy because someone might try to convince you to vote against me.

          Love me, I’m a liberal.

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            Sorry you’re not allowed to have a democracy because someone might try to convince you to vote against me.

            I can’t believe you’re genuinely this unimaginative. Do you really think Russia would limit themselves to propaganda? Do you think Russia respects the democratic process enough to not interfere in an election where getting the right leader might mean submission, annexation, and victory? The same Russia that was the origin for multiple bomb threats on polling locations during the US 2024 election? The same Russia that’s constantly fraught with internal accusations of election fraud? That Russia?

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      Russia is clearly after the Donbass, not all of Ukraine. Elections will persist even after the almost certain conclusion, that being full annexing of the 4 oblasts. This is the sensible outcome, considering western Ukraine coup’d the president supported by the Donbass region in a Banderite takeover:

      Since the Banderite coup in 2014, Ukraine has been in a civil war where Kiev has been ethnically cleansing the Donbass region. The Minsk agreements were both tanked by Ukraine and the west, meaning diplomatic solutions to the Civil War were tried, and failed.

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          They didn’t seriously try to take the capital, and even if by miracle they did, the purpose is to end the war then and there. Right now they are focusing on attrition, wearing Ukraine down slowly.

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                23 hours ago
                1. Even when you routinely bomb civilians?
                2. In your logic there’s nothing that can disapprove your position. Good luck Mr. Gorsky.
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                    10 hours ago

                    fuelled by the inflow of foreign fighters and weapons from the Russian Federation, accounts for the majority of violations of the right to life in Ukraine over the last two years

                    On April 12th 2014, a Russian citizen and FSB undercover officer Igor Strelkov led a group of Russian soldiers to take over Slov’yansk. Before that he was participating in annexation of Crimea which also leg to killings and torture of Ukrainian and Crimean tatar civilians and activists. He was later supported by regular Russian troops.

                    Since 2022 Russian aggression destroyed hundreds of cities and towns, including but not limited to Bakhmut, Mariupol, Avdiivka, Vuhledar, Soledar, Popasna. They forced mobilisation of local civilians which lead to death of est. 20-25 thousands of forcefully mobilized civilians. How about morning them and not a fantasy of a report you can’t comprehend starting from the opening.

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              No I think they would and did use it to apply political pressure and relieve military pressure from other fronts by drawing enemy reserves. “Trade it for the Donbas” what are you nine?

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                My point is that Russia definitely wanted it, and they definitely wouldn’t have come off of it if they conquered it. Pretending it was just a feint or that they didn’t really want the capital is just whitewashing Russia’s war of conquest.