Zelenskyy isn’t blocking elections, though. Ukrainian law/constitution forbids elections under martial law, and they’re under martial law because they’re still under invasion from Russia. If anyone is blocking Ukrainian elections, it’s Putin because the only options he left them are to either resist and forego elections temporarily or submit and lose Ukrainian elections forever. In neither option does Ukraine get elections, and Zelenskyy isn’t the one who created the situation by invading.
Even if that weren’t 100% bullshit it wouldn’t matter because the current regime was put there by a US backed coup anyway. Russia’s response to our extremely obvious puppet state waging proxy war from right across their border is perfectly reasonable, if they overthrew Mexico and started sending people across the border to attack us we’d have fucking nuked them by now
Wishing doesn’t make it so. You’re free to try to prove me wrong, but you won’t like what you find when you search.
Russia’s response to our extremely obvious puppet state waging proxy war from right across their border is perfectly reasonable, if they overthrew Mexico and started sending people across the border to attack us we’d have fucking nuked them by now
You’d think Russia would have made a bigger deal of that if there were any truth to it at all, but they don’t even mention it. They like to make claims about Nazis, they like to cry about NATO expanding after some of their neighbors watched them abuse some of their other neighbors, they downplay whether they’re really in a genuine war or just a “special military operation”, but they never claim Ukraine attacked them first.
All I can find when I try to look into it is an AI overview claiming it with no source, but search is shit these days and heavily favors new news, so maybe you’re right and they have technically at some point made the claim.
But let’s look at what Putin had to say when the “special military operation” began:
“The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime,” Putin said in a televised address. “To this end, we will seek to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation.”
Now he makes a lot of claims there, but they’re not the point right now, so let’s try to not get distracted. Let’s focus on the part where he claims they attacked first because this is surely where he’d make that claim, right at the start when first trying to justify their actions, right? Except it isn’t there. Because it’s horse shit, and not even Putin can say it with a straight face.
Good job, now do you think you could find something about the point we’re actually talking about, or are you just rounding up reading material for yourself and wanted to share? Because here’s what we’re talking about, in your words, with some emphasis from me:
if they overthrew Mexico and started sending people across the border to attack us we’d have fucking nuked them by now
I already knew you would brand that a coup, so let’s set that aside for a moment and talk about the part where you said Ukraine attacks Russia. Because that is what I wanted evidence of.
I’d say my pile is just as big as yours, but to be totally fair, you did come up with a pile of completely irrelevant shit, so. You’ve got that going for you, at least.
No, a bunch of parties were suspended because they have connections to the country that’s bombing them, and it’s only while they’re under martial law. Martial law could end any day now if Russia just fucked off back home.
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.
Suspended. As in, a temporary measure. Because dealing with Russia would be treasonous when they’re under active attack by Russia. Cry harder about people blocking Russian corruption. Someone here cares, too, I’m sure.
Yeah, people get irritable about misinformation on their front page, like when someone falsely claims Zelenskyy canceled elections.
Not false, you’re losing
Zelenskyy isn’t blocking elections, though. Ukrainian law/constitution forbids elections under martial law, and they’re under martial law because they’re still under invasion from Russia. If anyone is blocking Ukrainian elections, it’s Putin because the only options he left them are to either resist and forego elections temporarily or submit and lose Ukrainian elections forever. In neither option does Ukraine get elections, and Zelenskyy isn’t the one who created the situation by invading.
Even if that weren’t 100% bullshit it wouldn’t matter because the current regime was put there by a US backed coup anyway. Russia’s response to our extremely obvious puppet state waging proxy war from right across their border is perfectly reasonable, if they overthrew Mexico and started sending people across the border to attack us we’d have fucking nuked them by now
Wishing doesn’t make it so. You’re free to try to prove me wrong, but you won’t like what you find when you search.
You’d think Russia would have made a bigger deal of that if there were any truth to it at all, but they don’t even mention it. They like to make claims about Nazis, they like to cry about NATO expanding after some of their neighbors watched them abuse some of their other neighbors, they downplay whether they’re really in a genuine war or just a “special military operation”, but they never claim Ukraine attacked them first.
They did and do, you’re a fucking joke
All I can find when I try to look into it is an AI overview claiming it with no source, but search is shit these days and heavily favors new news, so maybe you’re right and they have technically at some point made the claim.
But let’s look at what Putin had to say when the “special military operation” began:
Now he makes a lot of claims there, but they’re not the point right now, so let’s try to not get distracted. Let’s focus on the part where he claims they attacked first because this is surely where he’d make that claim, right at the start when first trying to justify their actions, right? Except it isn’t there. Because it’s horse shit, and not even Putin can say it with a straight face.
It took me like 30 fucking seconds to find multiple articles specifically about Putin addressing the US backed coup, get good
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/whats-the-west-backed-coup-in-ukraine-in-2014-that-putin-is-talking-about-13930164.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/22/russias-putin-accuses-us-of-orchestrating-2014-coup-in-ukraine
https://www.trtworld.com/article/a7585ea546c5
https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-us-ukraine-coup-organizing-russia-1602840
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/putin-calls-ukraine-war-a-consequence-of-2014-coup-not-invasion-at-sco-summit
https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/world/europe/putin-obama-ukraine-facts/
Good job, now do you think you could find something about the point we’re actually talking about, or are you just rounding up reading material for yourself and wanted to share? Because here’s what we’re talking about, in your words, with some emphasis from me:
I already knew you would brand that a coup, so let’s set that aside for a moment and talk about the part where you said Ukraine attacks Russia. Because that is what I wanted evidence of.
I’m seeing several paragraphs of bullshit and no source lol, try again
I’d say my pile is just as big as yours, but to be totally fair, you did come up with a pile of completely irrelevant shit, so. You’ve got that going for you, at least.
And before that he banned opposition parties
No, a bunch of parties were suspended because they have connections to the country that’s bombing them, and it’s only while they’re under martial law. Martial law could end any day now if Russia just fucked off back home.
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.
That’s a great thought-terminating cliche you have there. Careful with it, though. It’s an antique.
“He didn’t ban opposition parties, opposition parties were merely banned, by him!”
Suspended. As in, a temporary measure. Because dealing with Russia would be treasonous when they’re under active attack by Russia. Cry harder about people blocking Russian corruption. Someone here cares, too, I’m sure.
Also not true. National Security and Defencr Council did it.
Any other blatant lies I can help clear up?