Should we try to change this stupid two party bullshit? Absolutely…but not right now. Right now, there is too much at stake.
Its sad that people are so ignorant they don’t realize that the controlled opposition wing of the US empire has done this for every election, and people are still falling for it. Liberals have the memory of a goldfish, and are naive enough to think the US is a democracy.
And what exactly do you propose? How do YOU think we unite the entire country in making this change? Because right now, half of it is brainwashed by a cult. Things in 2026 are completely different from revolutions in the past and need a different approach. So if I’m so ignorant, then please, enlighten me on how we invoke change on such a massive scale right now, today, instead of focusing on getting to a mediocre point where basic rights aren’t being stripped away one by one. Because as someone who has a life outside of the internet and isn’t a straight white man, I have much more immediate concerns for the safety of myself and my loved ones than a grandiose plan to overthrow the government. So I implore you to give me somewhere to start.
Dessalines already linked the reading guide I put together, but I want to address something you bring up. Conditions are different from past and present revolutions, correct. In what ways, though? What part of revolutionary strategy is general, and what part is particular? What do we take, and what do we have to figure out? The truth is that much of revolutionary strategy is very similar, but what changes is the class outlook.
Western countries are generally imperialist, and the US is also a settler-colony. This impacts the class demographics. The US Empire is also in decay. Gradually, the working classes have interests more aligned with the global south, ie ending the empire. This type of revolution has not really happened yet, but this doesn’t mean revolution isn’t still necessary.
Step one is to get organized, join an org like PSL. Step two is to educate yourself and others on theory, history, and practice. Step three is to agitate among the people and bring them into the fold, creating a unified and disciplined working class with the skills and knowledge to correctly overcome revolutionary obstacles.
The difference nowadays is honestly the internet and age of disinformation and psyops. People’s brains are so physically damaged from being chronically online, plus the older generation increasingly losing their minds to lead poisoning and Facebook AI slop, and they are STRONGLY united. People don’t leave their houses anymore, third places are dead, we have to completely remodel our if we are to take this on. I am not disagreeing with anything you are saying or the need for revolution. The issue arises that we cannot make this change happen quickly enough. We cannot change the sociopolitical system of an entire country, again with half of it brainrotted by cult ideology, within 2 years before the next election. Even if we have the biggest turnout of 3rd party votes in history in 2028, the right wing and capitalist class is united under their lord and savior, even if not all of them agree with him. The left is fragmented and cannibalizing itself, as we are seeing in this thread right now. We seal our fate if we vote a bunch of different ways while the right does not. We have to break out the bandaids and stop the bleeding. We absolutely can and should do all of what you’re talking about - but we can’t afford to lose another election while we do.
Now, if (when?) no elections happen at all in 2028, then all bets are off and the game changes completely.
Step two is organizing: joining a communist / working-class party, and if none exist, starting one like the Black Panthers did. Which org you join depends on which country you live in; but we can only gain liberation by joining organizations which push our interests and not those of capitalists.
I think everyone is misunderstanding me and skipping over the fact that we cannot afford to lose another election to the right in 2 years. This seems to have instead been taken to mean “we have to keep mindlessly voting blue forever and never organize or revolt and passively hope we get a good leader” and I feel I’m having to defend a point I never made.
Its sad that people are so ignorant they don’t realize that the controlled opposition wing of the US empire has done this for every election, and people are still falling for it. Liberals have the memory of a goldfish, and are naive enough to think the US is a democracy.
And what exactly do you propose? How do YOU think we unite the entire country in making this change? Because right now, half of it is brainwashed by a cult. Things in 2026 are completely different from revolutions in the past and need a different approach. So if I’m so ignorant, then please, enlighten me on how we invoke change on such a massive scale right now, today, instead of focusing on getting to a mediocre point where basic rights aren’t being stripped away one by one. Because as someone who has a life outside of the internet and isn’t a straight white man, I have much more immediate concerns for the safety of myself and my loved ones than a grandiose plan to overthrow the government. So I implore you to give me somewhere to start.
Dessalines already linked the reading guide I put together, but I want to address something you bring up. Conditions are different from past and present revolutions, correct. In what ways, though? What part of revolutionary strategy is general, and what part is particular? What do we take, and what do we have to figure out? The truth is that much of revolutionary strategy is very similar, but what changes is the class outlook.
Western countries are generally imperialist, and the US is also a settler-colony. This impacts the class demographics. The US Empire is also in decay. Gradually, the working classes have interests more aligned with the global south, ie ending the empire. This type of revolution has not really happened yet, but this doesn’t mean revolution isn’t still necessary.
Step one is to get organized, join an org like PSL. Step two is to educate yourself and others on theory, history, and practice. Step three is to agitate among the people and bring them into the fold, creating a unified and disciplined working class with the skills and knowledge to correctly overcome revolutionary obstacles.
The difference nowadays is honestly the internet and age of disinformation and psyops. People’s brains are so physically damaged from being chronically online, plus the older generation increasingly losing their minds to lead poisoning and Facebook AI slop, and they are STRONGLY united. People don’t leave their houses anymore, third places are dead, we have to completely remodel our if we are to take this on. I am not disagreeing with anything you are saying or the need for revolution. The issue arises that we cannot make this change happen quickly enough. We cannot change the sociopolitical system of an entire country, again with half of it brainrotted by cult ideology, within 2 years before the next election. Even if we have the biggest turnout of 3rd party votes in history in 2028, the right wing and capitalist class is united under their lord and savior, even if not all of them agree with him. The left is fragmented and cannibalizing itself, as we are seeing in this thread right now. We seal our fate if we vote a bunch of different ways while the right does not. We have to break out the bandaids and stop the bleeding. We absolutely can and should do all of what you’re talking about - but we can’t afford to lose another election while we do.
Now, if (when?) no elections happen at all in 2028, then all bets are off and the game changes completely.
Step one is education about what works, and doesn’t, and how worker liberation has been acheived in the past. Here’s a good reading list from @Cowbee@lemmy.ml , and one that I host.
Step two is organizing: joining a communist / working-class party, and if none exist, starting one like the Black Panthers did. Which org you join depends on which country you live in; but we can only gain liberation by joining organizations which push our interests and not those of capitalists.
I think everyone is misunderstanding me and skipping over the fact that we cannot afford to lose another election to the right in 2 years. This seems to have instead been taken to mean “we have to keep mindlessly voting blue forever and never organize or revolt and passively hope we get a good leader” and I feel I’m having to defend a point I never made.