I point out who’s better on an issue today, you find a different issue to complain about, or dig into the historical record when there wasn’t yet differentiation on a question
You claimed that one of the parties is better on LGBT rights. I pointed out that the blue fascists only pay lip service to it, and that relevant rights were won by other people. Decidedly not by voting.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on economic policy. I pointed out that the economic policies of both are geared towards subjugation, torture and killing of the rest of the world, as well as its own domestic working class.
You claimed that one of the parties gave you better healthcare when all you’ve been fed are scraps. At best, this is a ‘bad cop - good cop’ routine. Also, remind me, which administration cancelled the RvW?
You claimed that the party that built the war crime pier, has been enthusiastically supporting the escalation of the genocide with weapon supplies, defunded UNRWA to contribute to the genocide escalation, cracked down on protestors against the genocide, etc. is somehow not a steadfast supporter of Pissrael.
Your point about Pissrael is especially silly, I’ve got to add.
As a Cuban whether he’s worse off under Obama or Trump.
Ask a Libyan if they are better off after Obama turned their country into an open-air slave market.
Ask a person in Afghanistan if they were worse off while Obama was bombing their hospitals.
Ask a woman trying to get an abortion in Florida.
Oh, hey, let’s actually do that. Let’s also ask which administration repealed the RvW precedent, despite the presidents of the relevant party explicitly promising to enshrine it in the USian constitution for decades.
Ask the Israel lobby if they’re nervous about MI and KS still.
Oh? Were they nervous about Biden that was sending them military supplies to conduct a genocide and that built the war crime pier for them?
I’m not saying that one can vote in revolutionary change, but voting absolutely matters
Voting in the US has produced approximately zero good results over its history.
That’s why they try to restrict it. That’s why ungodly piles of cash get burned to influence it. That’s why removed copy your rhetoric.
‘They’ have been convincing you all this time that voting matters.
If you actually think that it matters, then why are you unable to point to the good results?
You can point out every failure in shortcoming of the so-called left of the US government and it doesn’t fucking matter. They’re still to the left of the right. There’s still a discernible difference. Some things improve sometimes when one party gets into office, and most things get worse when the other gets in power. I don’t know how it works in your country, but here that counts as a difference. Sorry you can’t vote out capitalism over the next 4 years. That’ll have to be worked on some other way. In the meantime, voting is still better than not.
People who use the word ‘whataboutism’ unironically (i.e. when their hypocrisy is called out) are silly, should be disregarded, and should not be politically empowered.
This is especially silly after you tried to claim that the enslaver of Libya was good.
All you can do is whataboutism and distraction.
What am I distracting anybody from in this case? From the ‘strategy’ that your empire has convinced you of being fruitful, despite it yielding no results beneficial to the oppressed?
You can point out every failure in shortcoming of the so-called left of the US government and it doesn’t fucking matter. They’re still to the left of the right.
This is like saying that if one doesn’t support, say, Ernst Röhm, they are somehow bad, and that it doesn’t matter that he has “shortcomings”.
They are not to the left of the right. They are on the right. They have the same policies, and you can’t even claim that they are in opposition to the other part of your uniparty, as they literally fund their election candidates.
The only difference is aesthetics.
There’s still a discernible difference.
Which is what, exactly?
Some things improve sometimes when one party gets into office
The negotiation for the removal of NATO’s troops from Afghanistan was negotiated under Trump, which is more than what I can say about the blue fascists.
Meanwhile, the other party’s administration undid the legal precedent for abortions that they promised to put in the constitution.
and most things get worse when the other gets in power.
You mean how the ICE usage got worse under Obomber to the point where each of his individual terms saw the most prolific usage of them? Or how his state enslaved Libya?
In the meantime, voting is still better than not.
You are so insistent, but are yet to provide proof of that in the context of the US.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on LGBT rights. I pointed out that the blue fascists only pay lip service to it, and that relevant rights were won by other people. Decidedly not by voting.
You claimed that one of the parties is better on economic policy. I pointed out that the economic policies of both are geared towards subjugation, torture and killing of the rest of the world, as well as its own domestic working class.
You claimed that one of the parties gave you better healthcare when all you’ve been fed are scraps. At best, this is a ‘bad cop - good cop’ routine. Also, remind me, which administration cancelled the RvW?
You claimed that the party that built the war crime pier, has been enthusiastically supporting the escalation of the genocide with weapon supplies, defunded UNRWA to contribute to the genocide escalation, cracked down on protestors against the genocide, etc. is somehow not a steadfast supporter of Pissrael.
Your point about Pissrael is especially silly, I’ve got to add.
Ask a Libyan if they are better off after Obama turned their country into an open-air slave market.
Ask a person in Afghanistan if they were worse off while Obama was bombing their hospitals.
Oh, hey, let’s actually do that. Let’s also ask which administration repealed the RvW precedent, despite the presidents of the relevant party explicitly promising to enshrine it in the USian constitution for decades.
Oh? Were they nervous about Biden that was sending them military supplies to conduct a genocide and that built the war crime pier for them?
Voting in the US has produced approximately zero good results over its history.
‘They’ have been convincing you all this time that voting matters.
If you actually think that it matters, then why are you unable to point to the good results?
EDIT: Also, this:
https://mander.xyz/post/55288596?scrollToComments=true
All you can do is whataboutism and distraction.
You can point out every failure in shortcoming of the so-called left of the US government and it doesn’t fucking matter. They’re still to the left of the right. There’s still a discernible difference. Some things improve sometimes when one party gets into office, and most things get worse when the other gets in power. I don’t know how it works in your country, but here that counts as a difference. Sorry you can’t vote out capitalism over the next 4 years. That’ll have to be worked on some other way. In the meantime, voting is still better than not.
People who use the word ‘whataboutism’ unironically (i.e. when their hypocrisy is called out) are silly, should be disregarded, and should not be politically empowered.
This is especially silly after you tried to claim that the enslaver of Libya was good.
What am I distracting anybody from in this case? From the ‘strategy’ that your empire has convinced you of being fruitful, despite it yielding no results beneficial to the oppressed?
This is like saying that if one doesn’t support, say, Ernst Röhm, they are somehow bad, and that it doesn’t matter that he has “shortcomings”.
They are not to the left of the right. They are on the right. They have the same policies, and you can’t even claim that they are in opposition to the other part of your uniparty, as they literally fund their election candidates.
The only difference is aesthetics.
Which is what, exactly?
The negotiation for the removal of NATO’s troops from Afghanistan was negotiated under Trump, which is more than what I can say about the blue fascists.
Meanwhile, the other party’s administration undid the legal precedent for abortions that they promised to put in the constitution.
You mean how the ICE usage got worse under Obomber to the point where each of his individual terms saw the most prolific usage of them? Or how his state enslaved Libya?
You are so insistent, but are yet to provide proof of that in the context of the US.