I keep hearing bad stuff about proton, but I don’t really get most of it. Could someone please explain all of the controversy to me. Lastly, what are the best alternatives to all of their services?

  • nkk@programming.dev
    11·
    3 hours ago

    Mail - Tuta Mail

    VPN - IVPN or AirVPN (Never been independently audited but cheaper and has port forwarding)

    Drive - Selfhost Nextcloud or Tuta Drive

    Calendar - Selfhost Nextcloud or Tuta Calendar

    Docs/Sheets - Selfhost Nextcloud or LibreOffice (offline)

    Pass - Bitwarden or KeePassXC (offline)

    Authenticator - 2FA or Aegis (both are offline but that’s a good thing with 2FA)

    Meet - Jitsi

    Lumo - Local AI or Kagi Assistant (paid, comes with privacy-focused search engine) or Duck.ai (free)

      • nkk@programming.dev
        3·
        2 hours ago

        NymVPN is too new for me to feel comfortable using personally. Also it seems that they worked with Brave which I’m certainly not a fan of.

        I wouldn’t recommend Jottacloud as their privacy policy seems iffy and they don’t have e2ee.

        Filen’s privacy policy seems better, although they do say they do analytics. They do have e2ee though. Definitely much closer to Tuta than Jottacloud.

    • sumsinj@lemmy.world
      2·
      8 hours ago

      I once saw people also recommend airvpn in the same context as ivpn, do they also have some issues or are they just too unknown?

      • nkk@programming.dev
        1·
        3 hours ago

        I like IVPN because it feels like a pretty drop-in replacement for Mullvad. It’s also available on Accrescent which is great for anyone using GrapheneOS.

        As for AirVPN, I thought you needed an email to sign up but after checking their sign up page, it seems you can enter whatever string you want for your email.

        They also support port forwarding unlike IVPN so if that’s super important to you maybe AirVPN is the way to go.

        It also seems AirVPN is slightly cheaper year by year and significantly cheaper if you buy 3 years at a time.

        AirVPN has never had an independent security audit though, so if that concerns you IVPN is the way to go.

        Otherwise, it seems like AirVPN is a real contender if you’re worried about price and/or port forwarding. Maybe I’ll give both of them a try before I commit to one (still waiting for my Mullvad days to run out).