Yeah, I think massive chemical batteries for storing excess electricity to facilitate a contrived green energy market is a bad idea.

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    2 days ago

    You’re right, but I think less dense but safer and more sustainable options are the better choice for this

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      2 days ago

      We can all agree on that, Clearly li-ion is a bad choice for static use cases.

      But right now it’s the cheapest option, and it looks likely that will stay true for quite a while unfortunately.

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          LIthium Iron Phosphate is cheapest relatively dense battery type. Sodium ion will be if lithium get expensive.

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            23 hours ago

            You can draw an arbitrary line of density you find good enough. But with how much space us wasted in some countries, that line should vary a bit place to place

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              22 hours ago

              With 40 foot containers providing utility or smaller scale storage solutions of 2.9mwh per container with LFP batteries, that is about 170mwh per acre. Before stacking. I don’t believe a lack of density matters anywhere in the world. Spare space inside buildings is usually sufficient for building needs.

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                21 hours ago

                A lack of density definitely matters in some places. I’ve been to a bunch of countries now, some have plenty of space, some really don’t

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          2 days ago

          Weirdly it’s not, except maybe gravity batteries where nice reservoirs happen to exist already. It should be but it’s not right now.

          Li-ion has economy of scale right now. I do think molten metal etc will overtake eventually, but they’re currently playing catchup and li-ion has dropped in price so much over time that it’s surprisingly cheap even where it should make no sense.