You are not the first, second, or even the 100th person I have had this conversation with. If I am assuming something incorrectly I apologize.

You must understand when you are in denial about basic facts and spew common propaganda talking points you are going to get a similar response from most people who are aware of bias.

You are clearly a smart person so please know when someone else calls you on your bias it is for your benefit. The fact that you are personalizing being indoctrinated is silly. I receive the exact same type of push back and denialism from people who defend the US, so regardless of choosen country the results are the same.

I have a strong bias against governments and human rights abuses. I have an extremely negative view of the US and the countless crimes they have committed. When I was much younger I spent a considerable amount of time moving through socialist and communist circles.

As I have grown older I have begun to see through the rhetoric and propaganda of many systems, cultures, and governments I used to a look up to. Believe me when I say there is no government that deserves humanity currently.

Everything I have stated is backed up by many years of research. I feel very comfortable with my statements. They are not exaggerated as you implied. I can go much further, but you would of course deny it all so there is little point.

I am not interested in your attack the messenger/source approach. This is a common trope of people who try to defend human rights abusing governments. Please don’t confuse my criticism of China with my lack of ability to criticize the US. I have spent most of my life studying human rights abuses by the US.

I get you want to deny everything bad China has done, it is obvious you are indoctrinated because you bring up all the same talking points that are disseminated as propaganda by China.

I totally get you are denial of the US China partnership. They have been sleeping in each other’s beds for a long time now despite the constant Orwellian propaganda from both sides. Saber rattlers aside, it is clear these economies are intertwined in ways that neither government would like to admit.

I do appreciate you maintain some impartiality though. You have said some interesting things that I will further research in the future. Thank you.

https://www.goldsea.com/article_details/china-executed-14-billionaires-for-corruption

Hyperbole, please. They actively use capital punishment. Just because you are okay with human rights violations because it is you “team” doesn’t mean everyone else is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

It is accepted that the famine was man made. I will gladly bring receipts because I am not in denial about reality.

“Over 6,700 American companies built operations in China by 2016, with a total estimated investment value exceeding $228 billion.”

Where do you think China got all its investment money and technology. China helped billionaires in the US grow richer while allowing them to turn China into another capitalist hellscape. If your in denial about this that is okay.

I have not exaggerated anything, in fact I have only talked about the tip of a very big iceberg. I get you are indoctrinated into their propaganda. Obviously though, you can even see through some of their bullshit.

The creation of even one billionaire is a dramatic failure for both culture and policy. Please spare me the hand waving.

Pretending billionaires are in check because the one party murders anyone who they disagree with is not what I would call an efficient system. Entire districts built that were empty without people, massive fraud, and waste. If you are pointing to this disorganized mess and proudly saying look at what we can do I am going to have to point out that it is ridiculous.

What China did do was lift several hundred million people out of poverty. Of course they turned to capitalism to do it and only after their failed policies cost tens of millions of lives. Instead of building on this accomplishment they have chosen to create a new billionaire social class on the backs of 6 days a week 12 hour shift working class.

China is increasingly looking a lot like the US with only one party. They are now the fourth largest producer of arms supplying conflict regions with weapons of death and destruction. They have built their country by working hand in hand with the US. China is great because of the US not despite it.

The narratives the one party pushes are garbage and you truly have to be naive to believe the propaganda they spew forth.

I sure hope you are not talking about China as they have produced more billionaires than the US for the last two years dramatically increasing their income gap. If you think they have capitalism in check I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

Ah yes, the mythical small business capitalism we all hear about. I will agree it sounds good on paper and also seems to distribute money in a somewhat efficient manner.

Unfortunately there has never been a government able to regulate and keep capitalism this way. Other people have said it is simply not possible due to the nature of capitalism.

I think there is a worthwhile debate here around systems and culture. Perhaps capitalism could work if people were not inherently so greedy. I tend to believe that culture is the deciding factor which is a little disheartening honestly.

That we know of.

They are just doing the bidding of advertisers. This is all about verifying there is an actual human so advertisers will continue paying companies like Google.

Meanwhile people are debating about child safety. Propaganda successful!

You are right, Billionaires should have known better but they just won’t stop.

The fact that the lower caste fantasizes about killing them is kind of proof how far they have gone.

It made a pretty anime girl look like she got 20 years older sucked up and hooked on drugs.

Just like I like them.

I would rather watch a real classic, not a bad copy.

It was a half assed from Dusk to Dawn with more stereotypes and less fun.

I enjoyed it, but it was definitely nothing special.

I hear you do what you can, it is too late already but your effort is appreciated.

I am not justifying the insult, just explaining how most people would use it.

No, it is a general insult usually aimed at your moral character.

They are currently in talks to use Verizon phones.

Edit: whoops that was Motorola, my bad.

Oh yes a brick wall that acts like an asshole. I was guessing this is where it was heading because you have been a shithead this whole time.

Respectfully gent bent.

Not everyone, but there is a strange mix of gangsters and rednecks that will absolutely kill you over nothing.

I have had more people pull guns on me than officers and I would rather it be an officer any day over a road rager or a drug addict.

Having said that, there is definitely something to the nervous with a tool officer pulling their gun out in fear that is very unsettling. Also, it is always your fault if an officer shoots, even when it is clearly not your fault. I really hate that.

You are telling me you can absolutely alter people’s belief with statistics!? Perhaps a few people who believe in this type of analysis.

All your comments give me the Impression I am talking to a brick wall. Maybe it is a ESL thing or perhaps your profound lack of reading comprehension. Any insight?

Meh, I have seen someone shot over road rage and it wasn’t even their fault. I have been robbed at gun point in Tri-cities in Eastern Washington, not exactly a big city. I know a women who got murdered by her husband for talking to another man.

A lot of people die senselessly from guns in the US, but I get your point.