I hear you do what you can, it is too late already but your effort is appreciated.

I am not justifying the insult, just explaining how most people would use it.

No, it is a general insult usually aimed at your moral character.

They are currently in talks to use Verizon phones.

Edit: whoops that was Motorola, my bad.

Oh yes a brick wall that acts like an asshole. I was guessing this is where it was heading because you have been a shithead this whole time.

Respectfully gent bent.

Not everyone, but there is a strange mix of gangsters and rednecks that will absolutely kill you over nothing.

I have had more people pull guns on me than officers and I would rather it be an officer any day over a road rager or a drug addict.

Having said that, there is definitely something to the nervous with a tool officer pulling their gun out in fear that is very unsettling. Also, it is always your fault if an officer shoots, even when it is clearly not your fault. I really hate that.

You are telling me you can absolutely alter people’s belief with statistics!? Perhaps a few people who believe in this type of analysis.

All your comments give me the Impression I am talking to a brick wall. Maybe it is a ESL thing or perhaps your profound lack of reading comprehension. Any insight?

Meh, I have seen someone shot over road rage and it wasn’t even their fault. I have been robbed at gun point in Tri-cities in Eastern Washington, not exactly a big city. I know a women who got murdered by her husband for talking to another man.

A lot of people die senselessly from guns in the US, but I get your point.

Trying to justify perception and stating it exists are two different things. I can speak to both. It definitely exists and the reason it exists is due to verifiable information.

Your statistical analysis cannot disprove perception because people are more likely to accept anecdotal evidence. That is just human nature.

You can definitely fight back with anecdotal information yourself (ie: My relatives traveled to the US and has a splendid time with no problems) but trying to sway people with statistics is a non-starter for a lot of people.

I am not doing shit. The UK government and other European nations do this without me (warn travelers about the US). I was just pointing it out and the possible rationales even if statistically it is a non-issue.

Preference and perception drive most people. Let’s just examine the fact that lots of people refuse to fly even though it is safer than driving. Are they wrong from a statistical analysis, sure. Are you going to convince them with stats, probably not.

Perception is more important than actual risk to most people. This is especially poignant considering you don’t have to visit the US on vacation and can just go somewhere else.

Let me ask you this, if you knew a nation was at war and losing about 50k citizens every year to said war would you want to visit? I think most sane people would say no.

I am reminded of the UK citizen who just went to visit her father in Texas who shot her after explaining it would be okay for Trump to rape her because he has other daughters.

I mean I am sorry, but the US is now worse than backwards Middle Eastern countries that are also statistically pretty damned safe. Doesn’t mean people want to visit either though.

Gun violence in the U$ is absolutely ridiculous. Not wanting to travel to a country that looses population to preventable issues like this is a no brainer.

https://theconversation.com/us-gun-crime-why-tourists-are-being-warned-to-avoid-and-beware-205906

Countries even warn their citizens like the US is some kind of violent third world nation. It would be embarrassing if the US gave a fuck, but they don’t.

We have lost 1.5 million people to gun violence the last three decades. More than every US soldier in every war combined. To pussy foot around with this is pretty ridiculous.

I am here saying Proton sucks for X and Y reason. The fact that all Proton can do is blame their users rather than develop more robust practices speaks to the opposite of what got people to buy into their ecosystem to begin with

So this is much more than their marketing. Like any corporation they suck just because they exist. As their ecosystem grows they will increase in price and enshitification will quickly set in. It is inevitable.

Finally their leadership has made so many statements that are frankly so out of touch with reality it isn’t funny. I feel sorry for people that are getting taken advantage of. Proton is just another predatory lying corporation.

This story is yet another example of the damage this company has caused because of their carelessness. Instead of figuring out how not to store this information on their servers they choose to put their users at risk.

There is so much wrong with this company it isn’t funny. I called Telsa and Musk several years ago as garbage and I fully believe Proton is in the same vein.

So salty then.

Please, they changed their marketing and had to make several clarifications. They were deceptive to begin with. It was always dumb considering they only ever followed the law. It was never like they went above and beyond.

Hey we are company that follows the law pick us just doesn’t have the vibe that got them their business.

I criticize the company for their practices you are playing shill pretending to “inform” me about technical issues.

I said their marketing was a lie. Hey I get it, reading is hard.

I was never confused about the issue. Honestly you are just shilling for Proton.

Proton, if it cared, could have taken any number of steps to mitigate this problem. Like I said, they created a false image of what they provided to the public and have been back peddling ever since. I get it you don’t see it that way and that you don’t view yourself as a shill.

I was talking about both. The fact that Proton exists as a middle man to expose a customer is the reality of the situation. Do you think they score points for blaming their customer!? I really have a hard time dealing with shills for corporations.

The real takeaway is the way Proton advertised itself was a fucking lie and now they have to spend all their time back peddling while shills like you do PR for them.

Garbage company with to leaders who say stupid shit about politics they don’t understand and make idle threats to their own government saying they are going to move like the little fascist bitches they are.