That’s is not what the problem is, lol, not by far. Nothing is a problem if you look at it in a short enough timeframe.

I’m not complaining about the few more people that discover Linux, I’m complaining that we are systemically introducing the same problems we want to get away from (“that the price is high/threatening”, especially now that desktop Linux is on a steady rise & we need such “”“endorsements”“” the least).

But “Linux” isn’t giving him any money either, surely. This argument breaks down because of that.

What? With influencers it’s what is monetisable in any current situation, what gets more views (and more money with that via various channels - atm “Linux” gives him revenue via selling ads etc to more people, if you offer him more money than that, he will sell whatever you say, that’s his profession). If a megacorp wants to get in on it they freely can. At any point. But it would be a lot harder to do that if we don’t/didn’t have professional ad-people (no background, just as the money winds go) intertwined from the “start”.
Financial power of a/any megacorps dictating foss just leads to monopoly again (eg how Google took over & is now closing more and more the “Android Linux”). And it makes it harder for projects to get support from “the people” vs “what is the most monetisable for some private entity”.

Overlooking that is akin to saying scalpers help redistribute the product. Technically, sure, so “what are you complaining abut, so cyclical.”

Talking about foss has literally become marketable. That’s the only reason professional influencers are talking about it now. And people listening to them will listen to whatever they say next too. And that (“money talks, bullshit walks”) is a bad future for foss which should be by it’s nature free of such incentives bcs it just becomes another megacorps monopoly.

Going into foss & financially rewarding corps that aren’t dedicated to open principles is just the current market situation (MS & Google) but with sparkles. It inevitably leads to more inequalities.

Monetisation & financial motivations.
That dude is no foss champion, at best just some user. If MS gives him money Windows & Edge will be the best

No.

Anyone with a platform can do that.

(And from the little bits I’ve seen, mostly over memes & various news bits, the quality is questionable. Just don’t follow the whims of influencers, it’s not the correct way forward imho, it just inevitability leads to or spreads enshitification.)

Zomg, someone cupped the (normal) cake!

Why did they choose the dried bird poop topping tho?

… I don’t think listening to random big influencers is a good way forward (in anything).

(As to the list - others already pointed out everything, y’all nerds know shit! <3)

Yeah, I thought so, perhaps next time.

So nice of her to include a comprehensive disclaimer list, much appreciated.

Lucy A. Snyder is a five-time Bram Stoker Award-winning writer and the author of the forthcoming Tor Nightfire novel Sister, Maiden, Monster. She also wrote the novels Spellbent, Shotgun Sorceress, and Switchblade Goddess, the nonfiction book Shooting Yourself in the Head For Fun and Profit: A Writer’s Survival Guide, the poetry collections Exposed Nerves and Chimeric Machines and the story collections Halloween Season, Garden of Eldritch Delights, While the Black Stars Burn, Soft Apocalypses, Orchid Carousals, Sparks and Shadows, and Installing Linux on a Dead Badger.

(Between all the Bram Stokers, the badger, & ‘Lucy A. Snyder frequently escaped into Clive Barker’s worlds when she was in darkest academia pursuing her MA in journalism’ you prob know how she writes.)

wiki/Lucy_A._Snyder
www.lucysnyder.com

Yeah, and not just Ikea stuff either, local brands there offer this too.

(I actually don’t really like the concept, but would def think about it if for some reason I would stop using dishwashers.)

… turn the glasses upsidedown when putting them into a dishwasher.

(Also all restaurants use dishwashers, albeit they are of the more speedy sort. The funny smell is just the poor lad washing the dishes.)

wiki/Maiju_Gebhard

Maiju Gebhard (September 15, 1896, in Helsinki – July 18, 1986, in Helsinki) was a Finnish inventor who invented the dish drying cabinet as the head of the household department at the Finnish Work Efficiency Institute in 1944 and 1945. She was the only child of economist Hannes Gebhard and politician Hedvig Gebhard.

Ok, amazing, but the shitty Logitech speakers make it weird.

The juiciness of burgers & pineapples allow for better texture/mixture & flavour distribution/experience imho compared to pizzas that are usually relatively drier.

Same for various cuts of apples.

I think all of those (Arch, Gentoo, Void) have unofficial or forked immutable versions. But I’m wondering why the immutable distros aren’t for “tinkerers”?

But I get it, and agree, current Linux phones arent for non-“tinkerers”, but isn’t that just how all things start in foss world/early unstable non-foss software projects? Surely that wouldn’t be the long-term goal.

Like Linux RISC-V desktops/laptops, but that is just the beginning.

Maybe that isn’t true but the original topic was “why Linux phones when AOSP forks exist” and I think “tinkerers” might think this way about Android.

Oh, definitely, but that is just the first/current stage.

My added comment is that, besides the tinkerers, AOSP is still in danger of Google (bcs it is by Google) - they are closing/trying to close down there open-sauciness of it (I know, the licences, but megacorp), delaying publishing the sauce code, and in the near future, I’m sure is it, making decisions that would be increasingly hard for AOSP to be used benevolently (they arent at the moment so hard on this bcs driver availability locks down what Android you can install on your phone).

The phone market and society would benefit long-term of Google wouldn’t have a monopoly in so many key areas.

Sorry, I couldn’t follow/I don’t think I understood you.

Why wound you want or need to run anything via CLI?

Most Linux users never use anything CLI (similar MacOS & Windows). Why would Linux phone users? And what does that have to do with android app devs?

The difference between Android and “proper” Linux? You said it:

But (what I said is that) all of that you can get in various Linux distros too - what I was saying that the basic divergence for devs is Google/Android SDK.

Lacks the image of free wild horses tho.

… people miss Android … to play Android games? Omfg.

Android is a semi-immutable (heavily modified and basically owned by Google) distro that runs app in sandboxes.

What is the difference?

… so why are eg flatpak apps less secure than Android ones?

And Play & Apple stores are full of unchecked scam apps. They basically are solving this by securing the os more. Yet apps (even Instagram) can still take pics without your action. I assume they listed in on you too.

The app (& SDK) argument I think has more to do with user- and dev-base. Something that Microsoft failed at in the mobile market. So basically we need a quality/seamless way of running Android apps on Linux.

And since we can run Win games on Linux very nicely I think this wouldn’t be that much of an issue … Tho minimal industry support (eg banking apps) is still needed.