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It is still helpful to be heard and minimize harm. Its good that you are privileged and won’t be targeted by ICE for example, but others are. Voting as left as possible shows that the overall population is not going to welcome them.

Enjoy your privilege @Cowbee@lemmy.ml, the rest of us do have to deal with the consequences of the elections.

Weather they are militant or simply political groups doesn’t change what I wrote. Do MLs not want others to see they are the group that is walking the talk and get more people to join in? I don’t imagine they want to have such a short reach.

Its not an accusation if you are putting this much energy into telling me why elections don’t matter. At least do the minimum there and encourage your fellow MLs to do so.

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Glad you did, please help encourage more people to do so as well. We could all have an even bigger leftist movement. Voting is only a small part of what we need to do, but we should not neglect it.

I feel I am. I have presented my case. You’re the one that wants to be counter productive and making excuses for people to stay home. “There will be opposition”, brov there will be in each case. Just take an evening to vote its a small ask; the fact its too big for you means we cannot count on you for the bigger stuff.

The point is that taking the system over on a strictly legal basis

You can’t because you don’t vote.

You can’t otherwise because your movement can’t even coordinate (or is to apathetic) to vote; much less to storm the capital.

I see.

MLs would want to build credibility of their movement and they would be advertising who they are. When they houthis walk the talk and lob missiles at Israel or ships they are clear that it was them and why they are doing what they are. That helps bolster their movement and recruit more people to do even more.

If you are the group doing the action you want it known so that you can keep growing.

ook at Allende, he was voted in and then immediately coup’d for it by Pinochet and the US Empire. Revolution is necessary.

A revolution could also be coup’ed therefore we should not make one by your own logic.

I am engaging at the same level you are.

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Do it anyway.

Show me exactly where I say we should skip out entirely. Show me exactly how I am being counter-productive.

And you won’t get the results you want because you don’t show up to vote. Aka, you are being counter productive to your own ends.

But nobody is saying we should ignore elections

And yet you put so much effort into telling me why you are not going to help us get the left most candidate possible. You’re the one effectively saying we should ignore elections.