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  • Most of the time when people talk about plagarism in relation to AI it’s not actually plagiarism. Unless you are referring to people using image edit models to remix someone else’s work, but you could say the same about photoshop or making a collage. These mostly come from misunderstanding how the models work, and there is a reason you don’t see technical people or machine learning engineers arguing this.

    I do agree though that there is an issue with people becoming mentally unstable as a result of using LLMs or VLMs. There is a specific model family that caused this primarily due to alignment issues. That model being GPT-4o. To some extent other models did also contribute to this, but the primary reason is GPT-4o. OpenAI and others have tried to fix this, but the community surrounding ChatGPT has been very resistant. To the point that GPT-4o was fully removed from ChatGPT but people demanded it be returned to them and unfortunately they got their wish. It seems people had become emotionally attached to the model. I think in this case the people and community surrounding the models are their own worst enemy. There are some interesting benchmarks on LessWrong by AI safety experts showing that some models are much better at detecting and handling psychosis than others. I believe Claude and Kimi models performed the best.

    As for authenticity and intentionality: I think you might have a point for some use cases. It’s also important to bare in mind that image and video generation are only one tiny subset of AI and even they have some good uses. In particular they can be used to tell stories written and voiced by human beings. Here I am referring to things like Gossip Goblin, which use AI generated video, but all the stories being told are written by humans. The GenAI here is being used instead of manually doing animation and special effects. One of the biggest uses of AI is in programming. This is used in everything from the latest Windows and Linux OSes to video games and websites. I don’t really see how using AI for writing code can remove intentionality from the process of making a game or other interactive media experience.

    Edit: also you might want to read this: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6ZnznCaTcbGYsCmqu/the-rise-of-parasitic-ai


  • Okay now you are the ones loosing track of the point. Moral arguments didn’t work on the war on drugs, and there was much more agreement there than there is here. I never actually made an argument about morals, I am saying that whatever you believe is basically irrelevant as you won’t stop this from happening, and can’t even stop consuming AI generated things yourself all of the time. I am not saying you are morally incorrect, I am saying your actions and arguments are futile. Probably the luddites were correct on some level; that did not change the outcome of their movement.

    That being said I am interested in what moral objections you have. I am not a big believer in morality myself, but it’s nonetheless interesting to hear what the objections specifically are. I understand some of the ones surrounding climate issues or job losses; I would still be interested in learning if there are other reasons people are unhappy.


  • If the public can’t tell the difference then how can they be comfortable or uncomfortable if they don’t even know?

    You will increasingly find as well that more and more things will be made using AI to the point you can’t really avoid it unless you only consume older media. This is especially true for anything involving programming such as video games as almost all future programming projects will involve AI as it’s simply much faster and more effective to code with AI than without it. Since you don’t have access to the source code of most games there really isn’t any way to tell. So even if you try to avoid video games with AI generated assets you won’t be able to avoid games with AI generated code.

    Basically I am trying to say that trying to boycott AI entirely is futile and hating it changes nothing. It’s the modern equivalent to being a luddite.