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I think I’d rather have an apology first if I’m going to do you any favors. You just spat out a lie about me and you’re going to brush it off?

Yeah, you’re making a lot of assumptions and accusations about what I believe and that’s just full on strawmaning.

You go back and forth on how voting is useless than talk about how voting got Trump into power, and honestly, you haven’t made a single good argument for not voting. All that does as far as I’m concerned is get conservatives into office, and I’m not going to do that.

Have fun on the high road, the rest of us have to deal with consequences of people like you who don’t care if people like Trump get elected, because you took the “mOrAl HiGh GrOuNd” and wouldn’t do the minimal effort to keep a Nazi out of office.

Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back door being a doormat.

Right, and if voting was useless, why do politicians want to take it away from demographics they hate? Why would people have to fight so hard for it?

If it really didn’t matter and it really was as you say it is, then they wouldn’t need to distract people.

If you really held onto this stance, then you can’t be mad at people who voted for Trump because it’s all smoke and mirrors anyway and he was picked with what, some shadow government?

Is organizing a revolution so easily distracted that spending like, a little part of a day casting a ballot something that’ll completely undermine everything? Is it that fragile?

You are disparaging organizing in favor of voting on the grounds of voting being better

I have never, once, at all, ever held that position, nor have I said such a thing. I have always been a proponent of organizing and voting.

Don’t you dare put those words in my mouth.

*you complain

and why tf would I want a Democrat dictatorship? I’m literally encouraging people to vote, which is about what they want.

If there was a Democratic dictatorship you wouldn’t vote against it.

Why only fight on one front when you could fight on all fronts? You can vote and do other things, you know.

Gotten people who can do better into positions of power? Kept people who can do harm out? Gotten rid of the feudal system where you only have power of you’re genetically born into it?

If voting didn’t matter, why would people fight and die for it? If voting didn’t matter, why do conservatives want you to not vote? If voting didn’t matter, why bother pretending and gave elections?

Why should you give up your agency over your government?

Or are you cool with the people who didn’t vote and kinda let Trump take over?

We’ve had this argument before and you haven’t convinced me this is true, especially with more immediate political concerns.

I’ve also talked with people who literally are against voting so your statement does not speak for everyone.

As opposed to the Lemmy solution, “Don’t vote! That’ll do something!”

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone suggest, ever, that you only need to vote to solve problems.