Debian.

It’s pretty great for desktop stuff these days. Basically Ubuntu minus the shit. Any desktop you want, it’s got live installers now (several different ones with different desktops), it’s got nonfree firmware on the disc, they’ve really upped their game.

(And if the recent systemd stuff skeeves you out, you can toss out systemd, even. It’s not for the faint of heart though.)

– Frost

Zelda Ocarina of Time is probably a solid contender.

Played it on our 3DS and it just felt like a worse Twilight Princess.

– Frost

yes please! We’re using OpenRC on Debian right now, it’s very nice. Way less annoying than systemd.

– Frost

It totally does! We used to use it on Mac, back before we switched to Linux.

– Frost

Ah yes, the literal embodiment of “announcing the new OpenTormentNexus!”.

Funnily enough, Gajim from Flatpak (1.9.5) does drag and drop just fine!

I can’t remember what version we’ve got on our laptop– [can’t we just check packages.debian.org?] right! It’s 2.1.1-2, apparently. Good to hear that 2.2.0 is non-adwaitified, that sounds like a good place to fork from.

– Frost

We were homeschooled.

Not the “religious nut” kind of homeschooling though. I wasn’t even aware that was a thing growing up. Our parents actually raised us totally atheist, so almost the opposite!

Personally I’m glad we were homeschooled, our parents actually did teach us well and we learned all the academic stuff you’d expect us to learn. (The state we grew up in also has a system of “you take yearly state-run standardized tests to make sure you’re actually being taught stuff”, which probably helps. But like, I don’t think that was the only reason our parents taught us well, I’m pretty sure they actually cared, too.)

The downside of all that is that it helped our parents keep us isolated. But honestly, I’ll take that over the bullying (and indoctrination) we’ve heard of public school having. Public school sounds like hell.

– Frost

This is why we run Gajim 1.9.5 in flatpak.

Which. Got removed from flathub, so to install it on our laptop, we had to do some kind of weird flatpak sideloading thing.

On our laptop we’ve been using Gajim 2.something from Debian 13 (our desktop runs testing so we can’t do that there). It’s not Full Gnomified. It also locks up whenever we try dragging a picture into the chat window to send. So… yeah.

Someone should fork Gajim pre-2.

(Okay, what the hell did Lemmy do to my quotes?? I used straight quotes for a reason! It just went and decided to guess opening vs. closing ones and totally scrambled them. If I want open/close quotes I’ll type open/close quotes.)

Hi, we (personally)'re various types of queer, and plural, and otherwise don’t really have local “”“”““real-life””“”“” community. The internet and such is crucial to our continued existence and we know literally nobody offline.

Don’t throw out computers just because “oh Real Life is More Real”.

(yes, you didn’t technically say “throw out computers in general” but it feels like you’re implying it with the “throw out games in general”.)

Also singleplayer games exist and those are good too.

Games are not purely a means to be social to other people in the same room with you. They’re still good for that! But societally we’ve moved way beyond that being the only reason.

(English could really use an inclusive and exclusive we, heh)

Games are actually among the LEAST enshittified regions of tech these days. And that’s with all the shit Ubisoft and their ilk are pulling. Games are like the one category of proprietary software where you can update relatively safely and expect to not be screwed over. Most of the time.

– Frost