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thank you, i think i saw that somwhere before. is it really true that the haressment is made up? like i honestly dont know

The one making the claims should provide the evidence.

and does it really has an impact on the eco system? i never really thought abou it…

Yes, it pushes for a Google monopoly in hardware, it creates a false narrative that there is no difference in privacy and/or security between alternative Android versions and ones by vendors. This further entrenches Google’s control of Android as it limits the options for Android users.

And i guess fair point that this is a security flaw considering the phone users beeing targeted… But like i still kinda think hardware backed security is important and also very crucial is, that the more devices they supporty the less recourses they have… I think considering how long it is since pixel 10 released and it is still not supported, would make me guess that they dont have like any free time really to do it at all ^^

I do believe Google has taken decisions that forced them to look for a new OEM, I am not sure if does affect the Pixel 10.

No GrapheneOS is not just calling them out on lack of security.

It’s apparently from their discord, so it took me a while to find it again.

It’s not about the personality of it’s directors, it’s about it’s effect on the (alternative) Android ecosystem as a whole, which is not just about security but also privacy and user control.

Even with regards to security, their choice of limiting devices apparently makes their users targets for extra scrutiny and harassment. That does have actual implications for people whose threat model includes authorities unless they already are guaranteed to be targets.

I don’t need a phone, GrapheneOS needs one now that Google is trying to force them out. I wonder if their new phone will actually meet all the requirements, if it comes out.

As for complaining, GrapheneOS is the one bitching about other Android versions existing since forever. Now, they 've started making unsubstantiated claims of them attacking them somehow.

Yes, before Google made phone on it’s own they supported some Nexus devices (google-partnered) and the Samsung Galaxy S4.

No it’s not. This is a recent development that has not yet actually come to fruition. It may exist in 2026.

Before that GrapheneOS dismissed any idea of targeting other phones than the ones build by one of the most anti-privacy companies on earth, that seeks to consolidate control of Android.

In my opinion both the evident ego of of the project lead as well as his naivety (tethering the project to Google) are huge red flags despite any assumed technical superiority.

Existing, probably.

Why would a FOSS program, barely able to pay for developers and/or infrastructure give away money for marketing?

It’s highly unlikely that the extra users will result in enough donations to even recoup the funds or significant volunteered development.

How the fuck is a floppy the last physical incarnation of saving a file? HDDs and SSDs are not made out ether.

If you mean save media you commonly interact with, USB thumb drives still exist. Considering computers becoming much more commonplace in their era they probably have been actually used by more people than floppies.

If it does not require an iPhone yes, side loading is just a few taps away.

But what is this mythical app that needs side loading? There’s matrix apps even on Apple’s app store.

Because it’s unavailable to the vast majority of people?

What do you mean by chat? Because IRC has never been p2p. What existed as p2p 20 years ago and doesn’t today? I think they are all still here. It’s users that turned elsewhere but the p2p networks are still alive and well.

Windows can boot and still be fucked. User can login and still be fucked.

Explorer crash and respawn loop. Taskbar not responding. Windows failing to update and still hogging every reboot. Networking settings get fucked up.

Also booting and even logging in does not mean a person can actually use his computer for his purposes. OneDrive deleting your work files from your laptop can fuck up a guy on the go.

Of course these people are not part of a bigger organization that managed their machines, just like OP’s mom. If anything I would say your experiences in IT out you out of touch with most PC and even Windows users.

Thank God you are not forbidding anyone from working on their own distros.

Can you elaborate on how we are going to get Ubuntu and Fedora developers to work on Debian and Arch instead? Are we going to buy out IBM and Canonical?

Very few games were playable from a CD (thrash loading speed).Usually the CD was required after install for DRM purposes only.

This is a Linux community not a professional art/design community.