If they didn’t ask for it, and don’t want it, it’s not ‘giving’ the other person anything. This is how a lot of sexual assault works; the rapist tells the other person they’re enjoying it and does things like this, and then goes ‘well I did (whatever act) for them, so I’m the good guy here.’ This idea that performing oral/touching the other person/etc without direct stimulation back is entirely about the person receiving is false, has always been false, and will continue to be false. This is dangerous ground we’re on here, and we’re better than this.

Seriously, the opening words are I want. I don’t know how much more direct it would have to be here.

First time I get that remark…

Funny enough, growing up I got tired of hearing women complain …

I believe this is when the kids say ‘lol.’

The dude is actively offering to pleasure the girl

No, he’s offering to do what he wants to do. It’s not universal that women want that; it’s not universal that women want anyone to do that; it’s not universal that women want that specific person to do that. This is how we got rape in Revenge of the Nerds because a bunch of guys went “yeah but she liked it, right?”

the guy is willingly taking the longer route to the girls favours, by putting her pleasure ahead of his.

No he isn’t, he wants to give her head. That’s for his pleasure–he enjoys going down on women. Said women aren’t fucking obligated to agree just because he’s offering.

This is some incel-level shit here.

Good luck, my American siblings. I’m very afraid of what is going to happen.