That’s not evidence of anything, it’s just a tautology stating that machine-id is indeed used, which has never been under any dispute throughout this discussion. What I provided was rationale for why machine-id is problematic, and why systemd makes the problem worse. You have not provided any rationale for why it’s necessary aside from stating a tautological fact here. Again, nothing new has been added to the discussion in the process, but you insist on continuing it for reasons unknown. I’ll just let you have the last word here since that’s what you seem to be after.

Have a good day.

Maybe go back and read through the thread because I very clearly and repeatedly explained myself. I’m not going to do it once again for you here. You’ve basically made this huge assumption that machine-id was somehow critical to adopt for which I’m not aware of any supporting evidence, nor have you bothered providing any rationale for. You just keep stating it as fact. Meanwhile, as I’ve explained, systemd makes the whole situation worse precisely by creating a monolithic structure which everything depends on, and which makes solving the problem more difficult now. I don’t think there’s any point continuing the discussion though because we just keep restating the same points here and I don’t think any further understanding will be gained by anyone from continuing to do that.

You have yet to explain what the net positive that machine-id brings to the table is. I’m eagerly waiting for you thesis.

What’s actually being said is that the west is hypocritical, preaching one thing and doing another. Also, your whole argument is demonstrably nonsense because during the Cold War the west was secure enough to not block any Soviet media. It’s not like Russia has a more powerful propaganda machine than USSR did. What changed is that now there is domestic discontent in the west due to collapsing living standards which is what’s making people open to alternative views. Banning outside media is just an attempt to sweep underlying material problems under the carpet.

Just ran across somebody talking about it on a forum. To be clear, having a consistent id can be useful outside of tracking, which is probably why it got introduced, but clearly tracking potential wasn’t considered fully here.

You could, but there was no machine-id on Linux originally and it was something that got added and arguably shouldn’t have been. Again, I’m really struggling to understand why you’re so invested in defending this decision. Like it’s obviously a bad decision, it’s not necessary, why is it so hard for you to just say that.

I believe liberewolf does hide your machine id

yup, both Chrome and Firefox expose your machine-id by default

thanks that’s a good talk

basically

It probably does, but I suspect they just didn’t consider the problem in the first place rather than the issue being that not having a persistent id is somehow extraordinarily difficult.

yeah probably, and you can tweak any distro to rotate it too, just most people don’t realize it’s a thing in the first place

oh you can do that with linux, even with systemd, just takes a bit of tinkering

tracking is a core function of pretty much all commercial software at this point

not necessarily, but it’s definitely easier to avoid having machine id without it

also to login with edge on top of that

unfortunately https://lemmy.ml/post/49710604

Imagine your computer has a secret ID number that Microsoft gives it when you sign in with your Microsoft account. This number is like a permanent nametag that your computer wears. Even if you use a VPN to hide your location, that nametag stays the same.

A hacker used a VPN to hide while breaking into a jewelry store’s computer system. But Microsoft helped the FBI find him because his computer’s secret nametag kept showing up everywhere he went online. They matched that nametag to his social media accounts and other stuff he did, and that’s how they caught him. Most people didn’t even know this secret nametag existed, and you can’t turn it off without breaking your computer.

Neither is it my first language, what’s your point?

at least you’re self aware