I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support

People who say ‘cant wait for steamOS to come out so that I can move to it’ is also very similar

They never will try Linux, even if what they want comes true

They won’t do it, whether they just fear change or think it’ll break stuff or they can’t bother

And I’m not going to lie, I don’t hate them or debate with them for it, I just hate the bold lies they tell just to get with the crowd

“Fuck you Microsoft, I’m moving to Linux” says the individual that would never move if they haven’t already

Frankly, I probably wouldn’t move either if Windows didn’t permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers, and reinstalling windows wasn’t harder than installing Linux, fucking hell

Either way, these people kick up hype for a Linux that will be so much bigger but they never arrive

Maybe they will, due in fucking 2028 or something when they invent a really easy way to use built in Linux tools to move your files from NTFS to Linux and then when you launch steam you have a perfect library of Linux compatible games that are as good or better than windows

And don’t lie, even now with 80% compatibility it feels more like 60%, whether because it depends on the system one runs or because the performance drops just make it not worth it…

At least don’t lie that you’ll move to Linux at a goal post that you’ll just move whenever you get close, maybe say that you’ll move to Linux when you finally get a new pc with a new disk or something?

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    I’ll move once it has Steam VR support. I don’t care if it’s just one VR game at the start. I just want to be able to see my monitors and play one game. And I know other options exist. But I want Steam.

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    It’s a little strange that you think “I want feature parity with what’s working for me (from my perspective)” is:

    1. A lie.
    2. Unreasonable to ask for.

    The healthy responses would be “Well, I hope either support grows or your needs change, because of some philosophical reasons you might not care about… yet” or, if they’re open to it “Oh, it can do this if you put a little work in, let me help you.”

    The unhealthy response is to accuse people of moving goalposts as if someone’s tool of choice is a political debate. It can be, obviously, given FOSS philosophies, but honestly this kind of screed just drives people away.

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      yeah, if you want to talk to computer normies about it, its good to focus on the practical advantages.

      you wont get nag screens and bullshit, its yours. it works well even on potato computers. its actually easier to use in a lot of ways. there are no ads. it actually runs games now, sometimes better than windows. it wont randomly slow down for some background task while you use it. it wont uninstall your shit or reset settings. it wont install shit without you approval. there are no ads. its less targeted by hackers and viruses. it is more powerful if you want to put the effort.

      so on, so forth. privacy and freedom are important things, but ones that most people sadly dont think about in secondary aspects of their lives like computers are for most people.

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    Well windows has 100% support. So it’s reasonable that an alternative that people want to use would be as accessable.

    Sorry

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      Windows has 100% support for Windows. I mean, yeah?

      I don’t see Windows supporting Linux programs. Or Apple programs.

      It’s a bad argument.

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      Except windows doesnt have 100% compatibility guaranteed either , there are cases where old games and programs are no longer working on newer versions of windows. These same games and programs in many cases will work on linux as there is a compatible wine prefix.

      I get your point though, I’m pointing out the 100% figure is not true for either os.

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    It’s pretty hard switch. I have a high interest in Linux, and I have 100% game compatibility. But I’m always running into issues that are so bad I have to abandon ship. I broken Ubuntu, Nobara, Debian, OpenSuse, and EndeavorOS. Truly Linux isn’t ready for newbies.

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      To counter this, my experience was completely different. The transition was very easy.

      Just set up some type of snapshots (I used Timeshift with auto snapshots made before every update and made available immediately on grub boot menu).

      I ran EndeavourOS for over a year this way, and broke it a whole bunch of times while learning the ins and outs. Timeshift was clutch, and made reverting any mistakes super easy.

      Now I’m on Bazzite, which is atomic and immutable, so I don’t really worry about breaking anything because I couldn’t if I wanted to (I mean I could, but it’s not easy).

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        Yep I very familiar with time shift, but some of the problems out of the box, for example OpenSuse would have loud annoying audio glitching whenever I would scroll within a window. When I looked into it; it seemed like other users never found a solution.

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      Linux is ready for newbies, just as Windows is. You just have to relearn stuff and not treat it like Windows.

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    You ever seen this XKCD about “today’s 10,000?”

    Your rant reminds me of that because I think you’ve got this idea in your head that everyone in life is at the same point in their journey as you are now. Linux has been on the edge of my mind for awhile but I’m a really busy working person and learning a new operating system seems daunting when you don’t have the experience.

    Then I bought a Steamdeck last year and a switch flipped in my head; I was like hey this gaming on Linux and it looks like it is actually doable. Then a few weeks back a misfortune resulted in Windows getting nuked on my gaming PC and I had some free time so installed Linux for the first time and started trying to figure stuff out.

    My point is that there are people who are truthfully interested but overwhelmed with life or it’s just not as high a priority to them so it hasn’t happened yet but that doesn’t mean that it won’t happen. This approach of “they would have done it by now if they were going to” just seems silly to me. People have lives and we are all at different places in our journey.

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    “I want to be able to use my expensive hardware for the reason I purchased it in the first place” seems like a pretty solid argument to me.

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    I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support

    Why do you give a shit what os others use?

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      Frankly I started to hold Linux like it was a religion, but beyond that admission it’s not that I care about them but them constantly saying shit like so which they know they don’t actually believe in or will do

      Imagine advocating for a protest just for you to not even show up