I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support
People who say ‘cant wait for steamOS to come out so that I can move to it’ is also very similar
They never will try Linux, even if what they want comes true
They won’t do it, whether they just fear change or think it’ll break stuff or they can’t bother
And I’m not going to lie, I don’t hate them or debate with them for it, I just hate the bold lies they tell just to get with the crowd
“Fuck you Microsoft, I’m moving to Linux” says the individual that would never move if they haven’t already
Frankly, I probably wouldn’t move either if Windows didn’t permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers, and reinstalling windows wasn’t harder than installing Linux, fucking hell
Either way, these people kick up hype for a Linux that will be so much bigger but they never arrive
Maybe they will, due in fucking 2028 or something when they invent a really easy way to use built in Linux tools to move your files from NTFS to Linux and then when you launch steam you have a perfect library of Linux compatible games that are as good or better than windows
And don’t lie, even now with 80% compatibility it feels more like 60%, whether because it depends on the system one runs or because the performance drops just make it not worth it…
At least don’t lie that you’ll move to Linux at a goal post that you’ll just move whenever you get close, maybe say that you’ll move to Linux when you finally get a new pc with a new disk or something?
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Just a heads up,
Most of my tools won’t run, (you can likely find alternatives for most, barring adobe)
most of my self made tools won’t run, (well you can fix that, now can’t ya? You made em once you can make em again)
most of my games won’t run, (Destiny player? Seems most single players run these days, but yeah the kernel level anticheat “required” by many online games renders them unplayable, because even if they do run like destiny you just get acct banned for playing on linux. This is the fault of the companies though, not on linux or its community for hating the kernel level spyware, of course.)
most 4 decades of internalization of shortcuts won’t cut it short anymore. (Actually you may be surprised, many windows shortcuts still work on KDE, and you can configure them however you want if there’s something missing. Plus you’d learn any “new” ones quicker than you may think.)
But yeah that said it isn’t for everybody. Just gotta weigh the cost/benefit, is it worth it to you to learn a little about a new UI to escape microsoft’s actively hostile anti-consumer practices, or would you rather just grin and bear it for “ease” (though it could be argued that “learning the new thing and being done with it” is actually easier than dealing with windows, just that learning the new thing frontloads the “hard” while dealing with microsoft is a constant annoyance. But I digress.)
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You ever seen this XKCD about “today’s 10,000?”
Your rant reminds me of that because I think you’ve got this idea in your head that everyone in life is at the same point in their journey as you are now. Linux has been on the edge of my mind for awhile but I’m a really busy working person and learning a new operating system seems daunting when you don’t have the experience.
Then I bought a Steamdeck last year and a switch flipped in my head; I was like hey this gaming on Linux and it looks like it is actually doable. Then a few weeks back a misfortune resulted in Windows getting nuked on my gaming PC and I had some free time so installed Linux for the first time and started trying to figure stuff out.
My point is that there are people who are truthfully interested but overwhelmed with life or it’s just not as high a priority to them so it hasn’t happened yet but that doesn’t mean that it won’t happen. This approach of “they would have done it by now if they were going to” just seems silly to me. People have lives and we are all at different places in our journey.
Wow really can resonate with that one. I’m there right now
Uh I mean… “Nuh uh if you use windows you can eat shit and fuck off” /s
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Switching from Windows to Linux was a refreshing experience. I’ve never encountered any problems running Windows games on Linux.
The only thing I miss is ShareX.
If you are on KDE, Spectacle is top and can do everything even recording.
I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support
Why do you give a shit what os others use?
Because of bandwagon effect. The more people use linux, then even more will. And itll get more support from software and hardware developers. And the world will be more free, safe, and not controlled by a big corp.
Well said
Frankly I started to hold Linux like it was a religion, but beyond that admission it’s not that I care about them but them constantly saying shit like so which they know they don’t actually believe in or will do
Imagine advocating for a protest just for you to not even show up
I mean, I think protests are important but I have to work to stay out of the homeless shelter
Well windows has 100% support. So it’s reasonable that an alternative that people want to use would be as accessable.
Sorry
Windows has 100% support for Windows. I mean, yeah?
I don’t see Windows supporting Linux programs. Or Apple programs.
It’s a bad argument.
Except windows doesnt have 100% compatibility guaranteed either , there are cases where old games and programs are no longer working on newer versions of windows. These same games and programs in many cases will work on linux as there is a compatible wine prefix.
I get your point though, I’m pointing out the 100% figure is not true for either os.
I’ll move once it has Steam VR support. I don’t care if it’s just one VR game at the start. I just want to be able to see my monitors and play one game. And I know other options exist. But I want Steam.
“I want to be able to use my expensive hardware for the reason I purchased it in the first place” seems like a pretty solid argument to me.
It’s pretty hard switch. I have a high interest in Linux, and I have 100% game compatibility. But I’m always running into issues that are so bad I have to abandon ship. I broken Ubuntu, Nobara, Debian, OpenSuse, and EndeavorOS. Truly Linux isn’t ready for newbies.
To counter this, my experience was completely different. The transition was very easy.
Just set up some type of snapshots (I used Timeshift with auto snapshots made before every update and made available immediately on grub boot menu).
I ran EndeavourOS for over a year this way, and broke it a whole bunch of times while learning the ins and outs. Timeshift was clutch, and made reverting any mistakes super easy.
Now I’m on Bazzite, which is atomic and immutable, so I don’t really worry about breaking anything because I couldn’t if I wanted to (I mean I could, but it’s not easy).
Yep I very familiar with time shift, but some of the problems out of the box, for example OpenSuse would have loud annoying audio glitching whenever I would scroll within a window. When I looked into it; it seemed like other users never found a solution.
Linux is ready for newbies, just as Windows is. You just have to relearn stuff and not treat it like Windows.
It’s a little strange that you think “I want feature parity with what’s working for me (from my perspective)” is:
- A lie.
- Unreasonable to ask for.
The healthy responses would be “Well, I hope either support grows or your needs change, because of some philosophical reasons you might not care about… yet” or, if they’re open to it “Oh, it can do this if you put a little work in, let me help you.”
The unhealthy response is to accuse people of moving goalposts as if someone’s tool of choice is a political debate. It can be, obviously, given FOSS philosophies, but honestly this kind of screed just drives people away.
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If it doesnt work on Linux I aint buying. Fucking manchilds without self respect.
