• cub Gucci@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    can’t blame individuals for problems like the weather or for mismanagement at different levels

    Well you can? Why have then

    the 1930s famine was the last major famine in soviet history

    If these very problems could be solved with proper management?

    The famine, which you refuse to call holodomor, was a challenge that highlighted the price of a mistake in the Soviet union.

    Yes, clap-clap, the famine was the last one, that was a huge achievement of the soviets.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      Why would you blame individuals for the weather? Is Stalin supposed to be Zeus? You can blame individuals for their mismanagement, but you seem to be attributing problems with other people specifically to Stalin, or attributing problems with management to socialism in general. It’s faulty.

      Secondly, no, the 1930s famine could not have been prevented by excellent management, it was largely caused by weather disasters. Perfect hindsight may have helped, but that would have meant collectivizing even earlier so as to develop industrial agriculture that could withstand weather fluctuations. In a region where famine was common and regular pre-socialism, ending famine is an achievement. That’s a major force for why life expectancy doubled from pre-socialism, along with safety nets like free healthcare.

      Finally, I don’t call it holodomor because holodomor is the debunked idea that it was an intentional genocide, a stance that isn’t really relevant outside of far-right anti-communists.