• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    3 days ago

    Oh come off it mate. It’s not hard to see where the US has lead the charge in topics such as LGBT+ rights or racial equality, and it wasn’t from Asia or Europe let me tell you that much.

    They may have a shit ton of flaws, and have a large part actively trying to undo all their work, but they have still done so much positive.

    Look at the timeline for marriage equality for instance, they were right up there with the first wave leading the global surge. That doesn’t happen if you’re full of hatred for them.

    They’re a dichotomy of amazing social progressivism and brutal conservatism.

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      2 days ago

      This timeline? Where the US is nearly the last of any western nation to legalise gay marriage?

      And isn’t your country actively trying to work back any progress you’ve had in the last decade? Trans rights, queer rights, women’s rights, minority rights.

      Also isn’t it Americans who are pushing the most for anti-LGBT legislation in African countries?

      Canada is falling down the same hill when it comes to trans rights, and it hurts me, but I’m not out here saying that Canada is any sort of leader in the field. I recognise the issues my country has and I’m going to fight to fix them.

      Knock off the American exceptionalism for one second and deal with the problems your country has

      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Wait where’s china, russia, turkey, iran, dprk, or any of those countries on this list? They were all before 2000, right? Right?

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        Mahatey, it’s not my fucking country or American exceptionalism because I’m not American eh?

        This timeline:

        And you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t think Canada is not one of the best places in the world for rights. Go take a holiday to 90% of the world and let me know how they treat women or queers.

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          Didn’t realise you weren’t American, sorry for assuming. Admittedly I’m very jaded right now (and a bit drunk) with all the threats of invasion and with Americans either laughing it off or being all for it (and I recognise that’s not all Americans but it’s enough). Like, “haha, Canada will turn the USA blue!”

          And fine, yeah Canada is pretty up there for LGBT rights, but when one of the main platform points (imported from the USA!) from the Conservatives right now seems to be just straight up attacking trans people, it makes me pretty worried. I have multiple family members and a few friends who are trans or non binary and the rhetoric is scary.

          But TL;DR, not angry at you, just America(ns). I apologise to the good Americans, but your country is exporting a lot of bullshit right now. More than usual