• john89@lemmy.caBanned
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    11 months ago

    This is fucking stupid.

    Our rulers are literally dictating who we can communicate with.

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        Ashley Belanger May Be Embezzling Money From Ars Technica

        Just a few days after writing an article on Ars Technica about the possibility of foreign users on RedNote being walled off from Chinese users, rumors began swirling on Lemmy that she may soon decide to defraud her employer by transferring company money into her personal bank account.

        😝

    • gaael@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      11 months ago

      Imo it’s more sad than hilarious. US users and Chinese users meeting each other on the platform and discovering they are interesting people who actually have a lot in common sounds like what I’d wish the internet to be.
      It’s not surprising, and I get the irony, but I feel more sad than amused.

      • littlewonder@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        You know, the news about Chinese and American users comparing their worldviews seemed weird to me because it reads like this is the first time Chinese and American users have interacted and had the chance to talk “candidly”.

        My first thought was, “Why the fuck is this news? It’s not like Chinese users can’t interact on American platfor—”

        …oh. Right. The great firewall.

    • atrielienz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      This was the turn of events anyone who knows anything about China and the CCP (and how closely they control businesses there) would have expected.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      I knew it was coming since that article yesterday about us Americans posting vids of 3D printed guns lmao

    • Syntha@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 months ago

      TikTok is banned in China, so why would anyone ever expect this would be different in this case?

      • homicidalrobot@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        11 months ago

        They have Douyin (it’s a carbon copy of tiktok). Rednote released a public statement welcoming US users, no evidence that what this article implies is being considered at all. The evidence is a reddit post. You are responding in agreement to a propaganda rag.

        • Jin@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          But TikTok is still banned by China… Chinese people cannot sign up for TikTok and communicate with the outside world.

        • FolknForage@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          11 months ago

          Why is it a different product then? Does it allow the same content? Same algorithm?

          Or is it different, and not an actual carbo copy?

        • Syntha@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          11 months ago

          They blocked the TikTok domain in China. What would you call that, if not a ban?

          You are naive if you believe they aren’t going to sever the communities. That was always going to happen.

          • homicidalrobot@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            11 months ago

            The only vibe I get from you is “15yo who just learned about politics”.

            AN: read this user’s comment history lmao

  • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    11 months ago

    There has been no official announcement that such a change is coming, but Reddit commenters speculated that possibly the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was requiring a change to stop American TikTokers from using the app to influence Chinese citizens.

    Ah, that trustworthy and unbiased group of China experts that are Redditors

    Two sentences before this they were explaining quite clearly why chinese users might actually be bothered by the flood of american users and why they might want the ability to filter by IP region, but because some redditors speculated that the SeeSeePee doesn’t want the Americans to spread their freedom-loving germs to their country then that must be why they’d do it, if that rumor were to be proven true

  • Jin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    11 months ago

    Worse part is that Chinese people overseas will no longer be able to connect with friends and family.

    • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      11 months ago

      Wechat will always be allowed overseas and is the main method of communication, but the account creation process is of course a little more detailed than simply signing up with a phone number.

  • PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    11 months ago

    I mean they added a translate button in the last day or two, so I infer that at least the people running the site are OK with encouraging the sudden American popularity.

    • Pacattack57@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Obviously take this with a grain of salt but a spokesperson of China already said they approve of this cultural exchange.

      Remember Rednote is approved by the CCP so there was already propaganda on the app and they are using this time to piss off Americans about some of our poor policy choices. Obviously there is not much negative stuff of China on the app.

  • Omega@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    11 months ago

    RedNote is really fun, haha

    Also fuck me why do they know more about my country than I do???

  • JiveTurkey@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    I tried to challenge some ideas in World News and I guess asking questions about Chinese censorship is xenophobic. Now I’m banned for not being pro Chinese censorship.

    • F/15/Cali@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      .ml

      There’s your problem. If they stated their rules, rather than forcing people to figure them out by trial and error, I’d have less of an issue with it. Like, lemmygrad is explicit in its intent and they state it outright in their rules. Lemmy.ml plays it too coy, and so comes off as incredibly manipulative.

        • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          11 months ago

          I wouldn’t take it seriously, they gave me a month long instance ban for saying a federal representative democracy is by definition a type of democracy.

          “American propaganda” or something.

                • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  God, shut up nerd, like your red fascist bullshit and their one party elections were or are better. Do you want to hear that it’s a flawed system? It is. All states are and should be abolished.

                  Still a type of democracy, and still more democratic than anything Russia or China have ever managed.

                • JiveTurkey@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  Uhhh yeah. The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Oh gosh, I thought you meant .world World News for a minute there. Yeah the problem is .ml, they’re tankies.

      • JiveTurkey@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        11 months ago

        Just asking questions instead of excusing it all under the guise of propaganda. I have no doubt some of it is, but all of it?

        • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          11 months ago

          When our government has a long history of direct lies it’s safe to assume everything they say is a lie.

  • airportline@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    They recently added new translation features. I don’t think it’s going to happen.

      • john89@lemmy.caBanned
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        America is of the few nations that has to deal with real diversity, so yes.

      • Deceptichum@quokk.au
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        11 months ago

        Oh come off it mate. It’s not hard to see where the US has lead the charge in topics such as LGBT+ rights or racial equality, and it wasn’t from Asia or Europe let me tell you that much.

        They may have a shit ton of flaws, and have a large part actively trying to undo all their work, but they have still done so much positive.

        Look at the timeline for marriage equality for instance, they were right up there with the first wave leading the global surge. That doesn’t happen if you’re full of hatred for them.

        They’re a dichotomy of amazing social progressivism and brutal conservatism.

        • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          This timeline? Where the US is nearly the last of any western nation to legalise gay marriage?

          And isn’t your country actively trying to work back any progress you’ve had in the last decade? Trans rights, queer rights, women’s rights, minority rights.

          Also isn’t it Americans who are pushing the most for anti-LGBT legislation in African countries?

          Canada is falling down the same hill when it comes to trans rights, and it hurts me, but I’m not out here saying that Canada is any sort of leader in the field. I recognise the issues my country has and I’m going to fight to fix them.

          Knock off the American exceptionalism for one second and deal with the problems your country has

          • Deceptichum@quokk.au
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            11 months ago

            Mahatey, it’s not my fucking country or American exceptionalism because I’m not American eh?

            This timeline:

            And you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t think Canada is not one of the best places in the world for rights. Go take a holiday to 90% of the world and let me know how they treat women or queers.

            • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              Didn’t realise you weren’t American, sorry for assuming. Admittedly I’m very jaded right now (and a bit drunk) with all the threats of invasion and with Americans either laughing it off or being all for it (and I recognise that’s not all Americans but it’s enough). Like, “haha, Canada will turn the USA blue!”

              And fine, yeah Canada is pretty up there for LGBT rights, but when one of the main platform points (imported from the USA!) from the Conservatives right now seems to be just straight up attacking trans people, it makes me pretty worried. I have multiple family members and a few friends who are trans or non binary and the rhetoric is scary.

              But TL;DR, not angry at you, just America(ns). I apologise to the good Americans, but your country is exporting a lot of bullshit right now. More than usual

              • john89@lemmy.caBanned
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                11 months ago

                American here. I would love for us to come up and take over your country.

                You piggyback on our military, and I believe any detriments to Canada will be balanced by benefits to America.

          • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            11 months ago

            Wait where’s china, russia, turkey, iran, dprk, or any of those countries on this list? They were all before 2000, right? Right?

      • john89@lemmy.caBanned
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        There is a lot of hatred towards minorities, but there’s also a lot of acceptance of them that would be out of place in most of the world.