Those aren’t mutually exclusive; “American indoctrination.” is the reason so many lemmitors disagree with such extreme views as “sending weapons that prolong war is bad for the people who will suffer the effects of those weapons, mostly civilians”, “supporting al-nusra is bad”, “we shouldn’t put tariffs on EVs and solar panels”, or “the chinese government having your data is less of a threat to you than the american government having your data”

Nearly everyone on rednote knows how to use a VPN.

100% just indoctrinated people, lemmy is too small to catch anyone’s attention.

Americans have jesters privilege. We can say anything we want as long as it doesn’t matter. As soon as the government thinks it might matter, they have a million tools to silence you.

You should go on the app and talk with actual chinese people.

Dems showed last election they’re not even willing to promise concessions to their voting base, so if you can’t actually do anything to help people afford groceries, how can they use the economy to campaign? Just go “Trump is terrible for the economy! We’re gonna be good for the economy”?

If you had so much as read a summery of both, or even like just opened either to a random place and read a few paragraphs, you would immediately understand why those are solid assumptions from what you’ve said.

But even now, instead of taking the most basic steps to educate yourself, you’re fortifying a position of ignorance.

China paying entire offices of people to be friendly, entertaining, and educational to foreigners online would be cool actually.

foreign governments

The influence of foreign governments is negligible next to what the US exerts on us. Americans have the jester’s privilege, we can say whatever we want, as long as they know it doesn’t matter. As soon as the government feels like it matters, they have a million tools to silence you.

Rednote is mostly chinese users.

No, it’ll probably take weeks to days; with the new law the president can unilaterally ban any foreign-owned app with 1 million users.

Watch Biden ban it on Jan 19th as a final fuck you.

Rednote started exploding 3 days ago, it’s been #1 on android and apple stores since.

Facebook should be banned everywhere.

So no, instead of getting a primary source, you’re just gonna stick with people who have never been to china and wouldn’t have a job if they said positive things about China?

You can lead a horse to water…

Instead of asking chinese people living in china about a system which supposedly exists in China, you’d rather just keep listening to western propaganda?

Why don’t you go on rednote and ask them about social credit? They have a search function where you can see other posts tagged as much.

I suspect it’s looking for alipay or wechat or something.

LOL, the irony is that red note is censoring posts from those “tiktok refugee”.

If they’re applying any special moderation to tiktok refugee tagged posts, I’m not seeing it. I’m seeing a lot of people say not to discuss politics, but I’m also seeing a lot of posts asking Chinese users specifically about stuff like social credit systems and other weird perceptions or asking about what crazy perceptions Chinese users have about Americans (like that we can work at a restaurant for 3 months and afford to buy a house??).

What’s the difference between censorship and moderation in this context?

It’s genuinely superior to tiktok though, the algo rewards like 1% of the ragebait, uncredited reposts, and deceptive posts that tiktok does. If they reverse the ban, I’m not going back.

Also, just because there are no ads, doesn’t mean that no one is propping up the business.

There is a shopping tab, and ads are allowed as long as it’s declared I think. Undeclared sponsored content gets bans.