• Ferrous@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 day ago

    Yup.

    What we are seeing now is a critical inflection point for liberals: do they do honest introspection and start to apply real criticism to the history of the US, or do they cover their ears and claim Trumpism is an aberration for which they have no reasonable explanation.

    To put it simply, liberals now have a choice between

    “Damn, this is really the outcome of the american political project, huh? How did we get here?”

    And

    “Trumpist fascism is un-American, and I am clueless as to how it took hold, but I am going to continue to vote blue no matter who!”

    If the amount of liberals on .world bizarrely harkening back to the “good old days” of the founders, Reagan, Obama, and even dubya is any indication, I suspect most of them have gone with the second option.

    • surph_ninja@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 day ago

      Liberals are just as much reactionaries as conservatives. They simply disagree on which status quo they’d like to return to and who is acceptable to exploit.

      • jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        the other guy pretty clearly meant liberal in a social & political philosophy sense and not a “liberal v conservative” modern american political theater one. i won’t speak for ferrous but i would imagine that’s why you didn’t get a reply of sorts yet. it’s kind of surprising and unsettling the amount of upvotes your comments have relative to each other but then again it seems reading comprehension is a skill more and more left to a select few.

        like, anyone from .ml probably means liberal in that sense but in the particular context of this comment he definitely did and i’m confused why you’re getting upvoted when your reply is nonsensical considering liberalism is not diametric to conservative ideology within most frameworks.

        sorry not to be a chode but wishy washy symbols like the ambiguity of the word “liberal” in modern discourse is a large part of what has landed us here in the first place.