I’m 36. I just told my mom I want to l go to France to ollattend a clown college. The shame in those eyes.

Sometimes the story isn’t what you wanted

I’ve (36m) asked my mother and grandfather if I’m overreacting.

My grandfather (104 when he died. He was so “dust bowl” he mother died of the dust in the dust bowl. Dust pneumonia. Yeah can’t get more depression era than that without also being a shoe shine boy at a carnival ): I killed the nazis once. I can kill them again

My mother (80f I asked here again just now. Right now face to face): I’ve never seen this cult behavior before. Never in my life. People will bury their trump flags in the ground and deny they ever supported him. Like the nazis did.

Yes this bad. It’s historically significant how bad it is. People will read about this moment in history and think “I hope my grandfather wasn’t a trumpet” as the look up their ancestors. Grandfathers will lie to their families about what they were doing right now. They will even shame me because all I did was comment online.

It’s specifically bad right now.

You knock my whole argument out with that sewer. Neos eyes couldn’t even adjust to the light when he first woke up. Thefomouters expect people to drown. That’s why the crew are in such a hurry to find him. No one can swim.

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Sorry had to come back.

No cypher changed his wants. It started with life of extreme pleasure but I’m pretty sure they asked again and he was like “you know what. Just put me back”. Not a direct quote but the essence of what he said after with the agents. He did tone it down.

I absolutely don’t want to come off as a cypher support. Yeah the dude was a jerk. We can all agree he was wrong

The last point actually says a lot.

A lot of my confusion is “Morpheus was a rule follower”

The correct answer you put forth is “yes and he’s on very thin ice because of it already”

Valid argument. Yeah Zion is 99 percent done with Morpheus Shannagins already. Fair point.

I’m still reading your reply but I have to comment on #1.

I can’t make sense of that scenes logic either way. To the point I just kinda dismiss that whole scene.

If the computers know he woke up why did they release him instead of just killing him?

If they did know he woke up, and didn’t kill hom because he’s the one… wouldn’t the crew find it unusual how easy it was to get him?

It’s always got me ass odd the machines are like “dang another one woke up… we’ll release them to the rebels like normal I guess… this upcoming war we totally know about and planned for is going to be hard…

I just have to dismiss that scenario unless anyone else can explain it?

You make a good point. If I remember correctly he does those comments in the movie too. Wasn’t it him who says if you close your eyes the food tastes like runny cereal? It might have been mouse. Either way your logic sounds good. He probably made passing comments often and no one noticed.

Zion is definitely portrayed as that kind of “cold calculating choice”

But the crew especially Morpheus and Neo seem very understanding. They violate orders for the greater good a few times.

I feel like they would’ve tried to help.

They let mouse have his women in red as a kink. They aren’t exactly rule tyrants

I feel this is the correct answer so far. There’s nothing for me to argue against here. Other than maybe “if they can give neo (edit to correct Neal to Neo lol” a bunch of guns they can give cypher money” but the argument is clearly “that was short term. The computers will eventually notice the long term hacking “

I have to disagree. We already established people in the matrix are the power source.

Maybe Zion can’t fully tap into that mechanic but I’m sure they can hack it good enough that power isn’t a concern.

Fair. I guess I forgot that part. Morpheus doesn’t come of as the cold tho person. He might of said that and might always say that as a warning but the way his character comes off I can’t see him being like “to bad so sad. Get back to work”

But maybe his character wasn’t portrayed quite accurately

Like they can teach a guy king fu in seconds.

I’m sure they could be like “okay will plug you back in at the designated facility where we help people like you, we’ll wipe your memory the best we can and you’ll go back. It won’t be exactly the same but if you commit to forgetting and we scrub what we can… in time it’ll taste like stake again. I empathize with those feelings and I’m sorry you choose the matrix but we understand. It’s actually pretty common around here”

I worked at a strip mall that used to have a toy store run by the grumpiest old bastard you’d ever meet.

I always wondered why the hell he was in that business when he clearly hated kids.

I’m sure a bit of it was all the years of kids getting boxes sticky and what not but damn maybe retire or something. I used to compare him to a character in a movie a saw back then “nobody tells DJ Request what to play!”

Get a different job man lol

I’d move in a heartbeat if I could.

When you do visit, even in the trump areas, no you aren’t alone. I unfortunately live in Texas and I’m surrounded by trump flags.

I’d move to Canada if I could, or the uk, or even an oil rig in the ocean fuck it lol

I’ll probably get downvoted for this but can you please specify you are boycotting the companies or government not the country itself? Most of us didn’t vote for him. Boycott the products absolutely, I understand that. Please don’t attach me or my fellow humans to it. We’re just trying to survive over here.

Most humans on this world are wanting the same thing right now and we’re all getting fucked by assholes.

We impeached him twice. He just didn’t get removed.

According to the movies it’s 90 percent just saying “I’m in” then you’re in.

I wouldn’t even mind the stealing of my information so much if they were at least quick about it. Imagine Facebook every few minutes stopped working and said “now stealing your information… please wait…”