The thing is, you don’t have to leave in order to get out. I know it sounds oxymoronic, but let me explain.
You’re not limited to just one social media account, that much is obvious to everybody. So, create an account on a competing platform, and be the reason someone else is able to justify quitting. If someone else says “hey, I want to leave” and you also say “I want to leave too,” but neither of you have even made an account elsewhere, nobody ever leaves.
If you make a new account elsewhere, then when that person says “hey, I want to leave,” you can say, “follow me on Pixelfed,” and even if they don’t uninstall Instagram, and just make a Pixelfed account, you’re one less instance of
I can’t follow the people I want to follow anywhere else
to keep them stuck there. You’ve now had them make an account, then someone they know goes through the same process you did, and so on.
Eventually, the alternative is populated enough that deleting the old service isn’t difficult anymore. All you have to do is be one of the people to take the first step, and become the reason for someone else to justify leaving.
You wanna know why they’re there? Because you’re there. The ol’ catch-22 of social media walled gardens. Inconvenient for literally everyone except the guys running them.
Here’s hoping people figure out that the Fediverse is specifically designed to solve that problem.
Ah right, when I leave Instagram, the people who have 2 million+ followers are gonna follow me to the fediverse. Yup that’s how that works, thank you very much for being so damn helpful today.
Inb4 “if everyone does it”. If everyone stopped driving their car, the government would be forced to make our cities more walkable. But that’s simply not gonna happen is it?
You don’t need everyone to do it, but if you can get enough people to do it, it will be foolish for those 2M+ follower accounts to not also have a presence on pixelfed or wherever. Most content creators are not limited to just one platform. Streamers will stream to Twitch, edit and upload the vod to YouTube, cut highlights and make shorts or tiktoks, etc.
What exactly are those people who you’re following doing for your quality of life? You need a car to get to work or do your errands. What does following a celebrity do for you?
Ah right, when I leave Instagram, the people who have 2 million+ followers are gonna follow me to the fediverse.
Actually yes, creators will use social networks that contain a significant enough amount of their fans. By moving, you are helping to change their mind!
It’s the same defeatist attitude as “voting doesn’t matter because my 1 vote doesn’t change anything” except it can and does more often than you think.
Sorry you got downvoted. It’s not an unpopular sentiment, it’s just a very tired one at this point. If everyone who made that argument instead just left, the problem wouldn’t exist.
And yeah, the people you follow are there because it’s where their audience is. If you want them to move, you gotta be the change you wanna see.
I mean, you’re here, so I have to assume I’m preaching to the choir to some extent.
Lol less that 1% of users probably think about the prerequisite line of thinking to even start that argument, then probably 1% of those would make that argument. A fraction of a percent won’t cause any change at all.
What has been proven time and time and time and time again are that humans are extremely extremely lazy and will not do anything at all unless there is a direct and present threat to them or their way of life. Hence why the wealth gap can be almost the worst in history with only 1 person actually having done something at all meaningful about it across the world. People still haven’t moved off of fucking twitter, they aren’t going to move off of Instagram. Especially not when “influencers” that draw the most people make their livelihood specifically from being on Instagram.
From my bubble, Meta and Zuckerberg are widely despised by the general public and have been for the better part of the last couple decades. I’ve never met a person who wants to be on their platform, only people who have to be. But you’re probably right, most of the users probably don’t even know who Zuckerberg is, or that Facebook ever renamed themselves.
But are the personalities you want to follow on there really pulling an audience that…simple?
So we’re not talking about “influencers”, we’re literally talking about people you are friends with? Hah! Fuck right off! Yes, if enough of your friend group leaves the rest will also leave, that’s the cut-and-dry scenario I laid out to begin with 🤣.
I already got rid of tiktok, twitter and facebook. Instagram is my last way of communicating with friends and to follow new releases of my favourite musicians etc. If I have to get rid of that too I might as well get rid of my phone and go live in a cave somewhere.
Oh no you won’t be able to waste time online watching people who don’t give a fuck about you. What ever will you do? Have some principals and walk away.
You will survive and find some other dipshits to follow around don’t worry.
I’d love to uninstall it but I can’t follow the people I want to follow anywhere else
I had the same problem, left anyway so I wasn’t supporting… that, and it turns out it’s all ok on the other side. You’ll be ok.
The good ol’ Collective Action Problem.
The thing is, you don’t have to leave in order to get out. I know it sounds oxymoronic, but let me explain.
You’re not limited to just one social media account, that much is obvious to everybody. So, create an account on a competing platform, and be the reason someone else is able to justify quitting. If someone else says “hey, I want to leave” and you also say “I want to leave too,” but neither of you have even made an account elsewhere, nobody ever leaves.
If you make a new account elsewhere, then when that person says “hey, I want to leave,” you can say, “follow me on Pixelfed,” and even if they don’t uninstall Instagram, and just make a Pixelfed account, you’re one less instance of
to keep them stuck there. You’ve now had them make an account, then someone they know goes through the same process you did, and so on.
Eventually, the alternative is populated enough that deleting the old service isn’t difficult anymore. All you have to do is be one of the people to take the first step, and become the reason for someone else to justify leaving.
that’s true, I already have a bunch of fediverse accounts, though lemmy is the only one I frequently use
You wanna know why they’re there? Because you’re there. The ol’ catch-22 of social media walled gardens. Inconvenient for literally everyone except the guys running them.
Here’s hoping people figure out that the Fediverse is specifically designed to solve that problem.
Ah right, when I leave Instagram, the people who have 2 million+ followers are gonna follow me to the fediverse. Yup that’s how that works, thank you very much for being so damn helpful today.
Inb4 “if everyone does it”. If everyone stopped driving their car, the government would be forced to make our cities more walkable. But that’s simply not gonna happen is it?
You don’t need everyone to do it, but if you can get enough people to do it, it will be foolish for those 2M+ follower accounts to not also have a presence on pixelfed or wherever. Most content creators are not limited to just one platform. Streamers will stream to Twitch, edit and upload the vod to YouTube, cut highlights and make shorts or tiktoks, etc.
What exactly are those people who you’re following doing for your quality of life? You need a car to get to work or do your errands. What does following a celebrity do for you?
a lot more than you are rn
Actually yes, creators will use social networks that contain a significant enough amount of their fans. By moving, you are helping to change their mind!
It’s the same defeatist attitude as “voting doesn’t matter because my 1 vote doesn’t change anything” except it can and does more often than you think.
no. if you want to compare it to politics, it’s like voting for a third party in the us. it’s 0.1% vs 99.9%
Sorry you got downvoted. It’s not an unpopular sentiment, it’s just a very tired one at this point. If everyone who made that argument instead just left, the problem wouldn’t exist.
And yeah, the people you follow are there because it’s where their audience is. If you want them to move, you gotta be the change you wanna see.
I mean, you’re here, so I have to assume I’m preaching to the choir to some extent.
You’d actually be surprised. I’ve seen a lot of tiktok creators cross posting to loops as well as rednote.
They know it’s there. Just feeling it out.
Lol less that 1% of users probably think about the prerequisite line of thinking to even start that argument, then probably 1% of those would make that argument. A fraction of a percent won’t cause any change at all.
What has been proven time and time and time and time again are that humans are extremely extremely lazy and will not do anything at all unless there is a direct and present threat to them or their way of life. Hence why the wealth gap can be almost the worst in history with only 1 person actually having done something at all meaningful about it across the world. People still haven’t moved off of fucking twitter, they aren’t going to move off of Instagram. Especially not when “influencers” that draw the most people make their livelihood specifically from being on Instagram.
Most folks I know, and socialize with, and celeb-follow on twitter have left already. Some (a lot) for threads. Most for bsky. Some the fediverse.
That is simply not even true, because that would be like 0.01% of all Instagram users. It wouldn’t make a dent.
From my bubble, Meta and Zuckerberg are widely despised by the general public and have been for the better part of the last couple decades. I’ve never met a person who wants to be on their platform, only people who have to be. But you’re probably right, most of the users probably don’t even know who Zuckerberg is, or that Facebook ever renamed themselves.
But are the personalities you want to follow on there really pulling an audience that…simple?
well thanks for calling my friends dumb I guess
So we’re not talking about “influencers”, we’re literally talking about people you are friends with? Hah! Fuck right off! Yes, if enough of your friend group leaves the rest will also leave, that’s the cut-and-dry scenario I laid out to begin with 🤣.
both my friends but also musicians, celebs, (comic) artists, video creators, activists, politicians,…
isn’t this what regular people use social media for?
Having principles means being willing to give something up now and then, whether you get the outcome you want or not.
I already got rid of tiktok, twitter and facebook. Instagram is my last way of communicating with friends and to follow new releases of my favourite musicians etc. If I have to get rid of that too I might as well get rid of my phone and go live in a cave somewhere.
For favorite musicians, I’d follow them on Tidal instead. They usually put out the same kind of info.
Oh no you won’t be able to waste time online watching people who don’t give a fuck about you. What ever will you do? Have some principals and walk away.
You will survive and find some other dipshits to follow around don’t worry.
well idk what you’re doing but I’m not following dipshits
I’ve ended up using Patreon way more now