• Xerxos@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    6 hours ago

    What the fuck are Amazon and Facebook doing? They were always spying on everyone, but that was just for targeted ads.

    Now that the government is on the brink of flat out fascism they start sharing their data?

    • atrielienz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 hours ago

      So, here’s the crux of the problem.

      The internet as it is now and as it has existed for the vast majority of its life is an ad supported system.

      The ad money is drying up because of several things:

      AI is taking away click throughs to websites meaning they don’t get ad click throughs or impressions. They run ads to keep the lights on and they are being starved of the engagement that ads pay for.

      People have less spending power than they have ever had. Ads don’t mean anything if people can’t afford products.

      There is a pivot to trying to get rich people to buy goods and services but even though they have most of the wealth they don’t need most goods and services. This means the best way to get them to spend money is to have them invest to grow that money.

      Ad companies require people to buy the goods and services that they are advertising in order to continue to pay for ads and ad aggregation.

      A large subset of the populace really does hate ads and also wants things for free. They do not want to be told that nothing is free and ads are how a lot of the internet makes money.

      The alternative to ad supported internet is data supported internet but people really really hate data brokers and data brokers mainly sell or offer up the use of data to three groups. Other data brokers/ad aggregators, the government/military industrial complex, and criminals.

      So naturally companies that used to sustain themselves on ad aggregation now do so by pursuing government contracts. Because the line must go up.

    • Dr_Del_Fuego@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 hours ago

      From their POV: imagine if it was illegal for you to not buy their shit? They would love that and try to help it however they can

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    6 hours ago

    I’m assuming so does Elon and his tech bro minions as well. We need way more South African immigrants until we reach the tipping point then BOOM!..conquered. /s

  • Jul (they/she)@piefed.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    20 hours ago

    Yep, that’s why I left most social media and try to keep things private. Not because i have anything to hide. I just don’t want everything I do, read, and say to be used against me or trigger hate-based attacks. These days everyone has at least one thing that some hate group would target them for since that’s how fascism works. Make everyone an enemy in small subgroups and trigger hate against that small subgroup whenever you need to distract from taking away rights or taking people’s money.

    • a1studmuffin@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      16 hours ago

      Plus you don’t know what you need to hide until it’s a problem with a future government. Look at what’s happening with ICE and immigrants right now. Based on America’s positive history with immigration, nobody in their right mind would have expected such a U-turn. See also Jews and personally identifiable census religious data during WWII.

      • davel@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        15 hours ago

        Having no online profile would also be suspicious.

        Your best bet is to maintain the profile of a harmless dimwit without a whiff class consciousness.

  • humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    43
    ·
    22 hours ago

    I can’t sleep anymore reading this stuff. The only chance that this can ever be regulated out of existence is through far reaching federal legislation that reinforces the 4th amendment in the digital age. And we know there is zero chance of that.

    The public space has never included a true right to privacy but the raw intake and storage and analysis of your every biometric and existence to create a profile on every figure regardless of threat or action in society is a fucking Invasion of being.

    • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      21 hours ago

      The whole point is to change the risk calculations people make in order to make “civil” and “polite” actions such as protests, legislation, etc. more risky and therefore most people are less likely to engage in.

      What these dumb asses don’t realize is that if the level of risk for the “peaceful” options rises to the same level as alternatives, which are arguably much more effective, then those are going to be the only recourse people have and the actions people will take.

      I do believe your analysis is correct about there being zero chance of it being legislated away. So now what?

    • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      18 hours ago

      relying on an unjust law system and corrupt politicians is a no starter. the only way is for the general public to stop consenting to it.

      they sell us hard on nothing to fear/nothing to hide rhetoric for a reason.

        • f3nyx@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          17 hours ago

          even worse: I brought up flock cameras to an aquaintance and their response was essentially “why is that so bad, they already have all our data from our phones, what’s one more set of cameras”

  • PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    20 hours ago

    “Benefiting private economic interests is absolutely one of the leading factors in creating these groups and organizations, and the public is all too happy to carry water for it,”

    This sums up any of these private-public partnerships… Asset protection against primarily petty crime (while “shielding” behind terrorism), and increased camera-coverage at no cost to the taxpayer (to more efficiently treat symptoms, instead of recognizing problem causes: as to maintain the dysfunctional system, which disproportionately benefits a few). Respect to Albury for having a functional moral compass.