• fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de
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    22 hours ago

    The most important claims about him are obviously the supernatural ones. “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” and all. Everything about the religion hinges on them being true.

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      22 hours ago

      We’re not talking about the religion though, we’re talking about the man, Jesus. He existed, and the historically verifiable facts stand.

      And I’m not sure what you mean by “the religion.” Christianity is a broad category, and we have everything from “Jesus was literally God” (Catholics go as far as revering his mom as divine) to “Jesus was mortal” (e.g. Jehovah’s Witnesses). And his impact isn’t limited to Christianity, he’s referred as a prophet in Islam, and even some Jews consider him a teacher worth listening to.

      What you accept from his teachings and whatnot (as recorded by others) is up to you. But his historicity is well established.

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        20 hours ago

        We’re not talking about the religion though, we’re talking about the man, Jesus. He existed, and the historically verifiable facts stand.

        The man wouldn’t even be historically notable if not for the religion. For all intents and purposes, he is the religion, the main cornerstone that set Christianity apart from Judaism.

        And I’m not sure what you mean by “the religion.”

        The subset of Christian denominations for which the statements make sense.