• ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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      10 days ago

      “Death to America” = “advocating violence” is the dumbest shit I ever read.

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        Not the first time I was banned for that either, despite explicitly saying America is a country, not a person, and needs to be sanctioned out of existence and balkanized.

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          Most people interpret “Death to America” as “Death to America(ns),” given it’s usually a phrase uttered by people who do want Americans dead.

          But - strictly speaking - it’s not technically that, no.

          In other words, you’d be acquitted if it was a crime in a US court, but the burden of proof for a Lemmy instance/community ban isn’t anywhere near Proof Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, as you and I both know from personal experience.

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            given it’s usually a phrase uttered by people who do want Americans dead.

            based on what?

            • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
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              The only experience I ever had with that phrase growing up in the US is:

              • Iranian nationalists apparently LARPing imminent attacks on the US for decades

              • Taliban/al-Qaeda conducting attacks on the US (and its allies)

              Hell, I can’t remember hearing it in any other context than that with the sole exception of your ban history.

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                The only experience I ever had with that phrase growing up in the US is:

                Iranian nationalists apparently LARPing imminent attacks on the US for decades
                
                Taliban/al-Qaeda conducting attacks on the US (and its allies)
                

                So you base this only from news then?

                Hell, I can’t remember hearing it in any other context than that with the sole exception of your ban history.

                What ban history? You are probably mistaking me for someone else.

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                  So you base this only from news then?

                  More or less, yes. I’ve never visited Taliban-held areas nor al-Qaeda training camps to ask them myself. I just have to go with the word of journalists that they didn’t set up an entire production just to trick me. Obviously that’s imperfect, but do you know anything about worldwide current events? Did you also get that from the news?

                  What ban history? You are probably mistaking me for someone else.

                  Yeah fair enough, whoever it was further up the chain that made the assertion you’re defending.

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                    More or less, yes. I’ve never visited Taliban-held areas nor al-Qaeda training camps to ask them myself. I just have to go with the word of journalists that they didn’t set up an entire production just to trick me. Obviously that’s imperfect, but do you know anything about worldwide current events? Did you also get that from the news?

                    Start by interacting with people outside the western hegemony, WITHOUT the chauvinism and racism! You can also learn more by reading, there are a lot of books about the history that you don’t know anything at all.

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                  It does, but unfortunately for your efforts to troll me that’s not one of the countries I’ve been to recently.

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                  Yep, lol.

                  I think this is a case of your echo chamber biasing you, and maybe even my echo chamber biasing me - as much as I take great efforts to get out of any echo chambers I could be a part of, even if doing so gets me slapped with removals and bans.

                  People simply aren’t chanting Death to America in the streets around the world 24/7. They’re mostly just going about their lives.

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                    As someone who doesn’t live in the US, nah man, we talk about how your country is fucking up the world again, lol.

                    We all know why gas has doubled in price. We saw what you did to that elementary school.

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      That’s 2/ … 50 or so?

      1/2 of them could absolutely be about Biden, depending on context.

      The other is obviously not.