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You mean the NATO insignia?
Gottem
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the flag of the zionist project?
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the meme has like 4 nazi symbols
7 to be precise
they would pog if he was a regular nazi too
– General Hans Speidel, who participated in the invasions of Poland, France, and the Soviet Union, played a key role in German rearmament and integration into NATO, and in 1957 became Commander-in-Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe.
– Sturmführer Dr. Eberhard Taubert worked with Goebbels in the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda where he was responsible for designing the yellow badge for Jews. After the war, he eventually became an adviser to ex-Nazi Franz Josef Strauss, German Minister of Defence from 1956-62, and was assigned by Strauss to NATO’s “Psychological Warfare Department” which spewed anti-communist propaganda just as Goebbels’ ministry had during the war.
– Nazi Admiral and U-Boat commander Friedrich Guggenberger, whose U-boat sank 17 allied ships, later served as Deputy Chief of Staff in the NATO command Armed Forces North (AFNORTH) 1968-72.
– Johannes Steinhoff, a Luftwaffe fighter pilot, was made Chairman of the NATO Military Committee 1971-74, holding other NATO positions prior to that.
– Johann von Kielmansegg, General Staff officer to the High Command of the Wehrmacht, 1942-44, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1967-68.
– Ernst Ferber, a major in the Wehrmacht, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1973-75.
– Karl Schnell, First General Staff officer of the LXXVI Panzer Corps, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1975-77.
– Franz Joseph Schulze, Chief of the Third Battery of the Flak Storm Regiment 241, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1977-79.
– Ferdinand von Senger und Etterline, Lieutenant of the 24th Panzer Division of the German Sixth Army, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1979-83.
source: https://cpcml.ca/itn220328-tmld-art4/ (thank you communist party of canada…) (plagiarized this comment from @abc@hexbear.net)
These silly “russians are the actual good guys” memes are so sad and silly. They want land and power they dont care who the ukranians are.
Nothing Russia could possibly do would ever justify supporting nazis
You can say someone is an instigator without supporting either but civilians are being killed that arent nazis or soldiers, which is not justifiable.
War isnt sports.
Idk what part of “nothing justifies supporting goddamned nazis” is confusing for you
Your inability to read.
The US murdered people en masse in japan during WW2, are they off the hook because nazi’s were part of the axis powers and the US wasnt,
Dont be obtuse.More than one group can be bad at once. Ukraine having nazi’s doesn’t make Russia anyone to be supported. You can hate them both and you dont have to pick a side.
If one side is supporting nazis and the other isn’t then the side chooses itself, provided you’re not a fucking nazi of course
Have you looked at the Russian side? Strangely you only condemn the Ukrainian side, but not the Nazis in the Russian Russian one
“Whatabout the other guy” my tax dollars aren’t supporting the other guy, quit making excuses and quit supporting fucking nazis dumbass
Perfectly fine opinion to have.
That’s not what the tankies say though ;)
I’m the tankies and I’m saying it so no
Now I’m confused, so you do support Russia?
Not supporting Ukraine isn’t the same as supporting Russia.
And supporting Russia in the context of the russian war in Ukraine is pretty much the litmus test regarding being at a tankie at the moment.
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What do you believe the Marxist take on the Russo-Ukrainian War is? Why?
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Do you believe the people of the Donbass region support Russia, or Kiev? Why?
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What do you believe Russia wants to get out of the war?
Let’s start with those 3 questions.
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Critical support for Russia in destabilizing the US, both are capitalist shitholes but the US is far more of a global problem. Current gov of Ukraine is a US puppet, no support whatsoever.
Many downvotes, no rebuttals. They just cling to “But Russian invaded!” Okay then, do you condemn the Allied forces illegal invasion of Italy on June 6, 1944? Italy wasn’t doing anything to America, the UK and Canada!
This is a meme comm, not necessarily a political debate comm. The meme isn’t really that high of quality.
So what? Most memes are low quality. You’re also kinda proving the point of the meme.
Lol I’m plenty aware Ukraine is Nazi infested, but the downvote stays.
Unsurprising
What the fuck is this post can someone explain
This community has a real problem with defending Russia on the invasion of Ukraine. Think this is the last post I’ve seen from here.
Oh I didn’t realize I’m subscribed to a memes community on .ml I just followed the memes topic on Piefed topics are just basically a group of communities in piefed
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“Russia invading Ukraine” is a western propaganda line, to be accurate it should be more along the lines of “Russia invades the nazi puppet government of the US empire to prevent further empire NATO imperialism and reestablish the Ukrainian peoples proper government”
So Russia is invading? That alone, pretty much regardless of the reason, is enough to side with Ukraine.
But that reason, even if true, is one of the stupidest reasons to invade. A softer, more propaganda focused approach would be both far more effective and far less costly, in both lives and resources. So either Russian leadership is so useless that an invasion is the best they can come up with, or they’re invading to take over Ukraine. Incompetent to the point of malice, or malice. Take your pick.
Ah yes, because the fascist one for sure isn’t the country where people are afraid to speak openly. Let’s conviently forget what it’s doing to say, feminist voices inside it’s own borders. I’m not exactly a fan of most governments, but to pretend that Ukraine was doing anything to justify being invaded by Russia is just sympathy for fascism.
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Says the liberal who refuses to see over the wall of western brainwashing
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Says the tankie who refuses to see beyond the wall of Russian brainwashing
“Der hauptfeind steht im eigenen land” -Karl Liebknecht.
True for both western and eastern country’s comrade ;)
That’s not fucking true they fucking killed people just like israel killed Palestinians just because a eastern country attacked a western company that doesn’t equal a good cause
Soz, but you’re just continuing to parrot empire propa, Russia had a very good cause to put an end to relentless US imperialism through NATO. Of course all the western media is going to exaggerate on everything to make them seem horrible to those who believe the propaganda
I’m sorry, but what’s the track record for ‘foreign intervention to fight imperialism’ after WWII?
I’ll tell you: disaster. Every, single, one, western or not.
I find this:
Russia invades the nazi puppet government of the US empire to prevent further empire NATO imperialism and reestablish the Ukrainian peoples proper government
So ironic it goes from being painful to hilarious to painful again. Somehow, this one liberation war, among all in the last 100 years, will be the justified and successful one. Like how Americans were so happy being stuck in what was supposed to be a quick ‘liberation war’ in Vietnam. To quote Johnson:
Why are these realities our concern? Why are we in South Vietnam? We are there because we have a promise to keep. Since 1954 every American president has offered support to the people of South Vietnam. We have helped to build, and we have helped to defend. Thus, over many years, we have made a national pledge to help South Vietnam defend its independence. And I intend to keep that promise…
…But yeah. Oh, this one is the exception if we keep going, sure. Nods head and pats back. We’ll talk again in a few years…
Everyone arguing in this thread for two imperial powers lol the only people who make sense today are the anarchists.
Both are bad in their own ways what you say is very true
Dont get fooled by the .ml brigade. The large majority of communists are not tankies simping for imperialist Russia but very aware that those imperialist powers need to be fought to establish a just society. We mostly just focus on the imperialist country we are living in
Der hauptfeind steht im eigenen land (the main enemy is in ones own country) -Karl Liebknecht
Damn, you’re in deep. Good luck.
ROFL Says the liberal who refuses to see over the wall of western brainwashing
Good luck bro
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This is an incredibly poor comment filled with unsupported gish-gallop. By making a mountain of claims without sourcing any of them, you try to hide behind the sheer numbers, then you quickly add that you only trust western, capitalist owned mass media. It’s incredibly dishonest.
Secondly, the fact that the current, far-right nationalist government in Ukraine reveres Stepan Bandera was even reported on by NPR in 2014. Bandera was a Nazi-collaborator that participated in the holocaust, the west backed the neo-nazis because they are the most violently anti-communist and anti-Russian.
Third, people do not say NATO is imperialist towards itself. NATO is an anti-communist, pro-imperialist millitary alliance of imperialist countries. The US is not imperializing Europe, Europe is vassalized but ultimately beneficiaries of imperialism. NATO destroyed Libya, Yugoslavia, organized terrorist attacks, encircles countries hostile to the west, etc. It’s the sheild that keeps the system by which the west loots and plunders the world in check. The fact that you don’t even know what leftists are talking about when we oppose NATO and are confusing it for being imperialist towards itself means you aren’t equipped to address the topic at hand.
Then, at the end, you throw in a mixed bag of claims without any backing. Israel should collapse so Palestine should be free. The US Empire should collapse, so the global south can be free. China isn’t anywhere close to as bad as the US, Europe, etc with how it treats the Uyghurs in Xjnjiang, read this Xinjiang Resource List.
If you’re on mobile, make shorter claims and back them up, don’t just list a mountain of unbacked claims and hope you aren’t called out on it.
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Russian propaganda justifying the invasion of Ukraine
Still laughing about that article talking about the warhammer 40k novels no longer getting a Ukrainian localization where they were interviewing someone in the military with the callsign “Shekel”. Like holy shit.
I think Memes@lemmy.ml doesn’t understand why so many of their posts get mass downvoted, like pointing out this revelation to other instances…
We. Freaking. KNOW!
Western fediverse instances know there was a freakin Nazi battalion in Ukraine, and rampant corruption, and other problems. We know ‘the west’ has been, and is, imperialist, hypocritical, genocidal and transactionally shit to other countries. This isn’t /r/conservative with bots preaching on about the virtues of western patriotism in 2025, this is a refuge for deep internet dwellers either watching their countries burn down around them (like me in the US), or, according to polls, barrel headfirst into the same techno-fascist utopias (largely Europe right now).
Memes like this are pretentious. It’s insulting, and most of all, insensitive.
How ridiculous would it look if Americans repeatedly pointed out how awful a trading partner China is in the geopolitical space compared to the US? Or if we constantly filled Lemmy with memes about how inclusive and virtuous and definitely-not-racist the American megacorps are compared to, say, North Korea? What if we set Ukraine aside for a sec and started memeing on the crises in Russia’s backyard, while utterly refusing to even acknowledge the dumpster fires in our own?
…So, yeah.
Even setting a ton of stuff aside, you’re preaching to the choir, in a really unfun way.
This meme is also wrong, at least on the top half, because apparently the majority of my country thinks rebadged, redneck/cyberpunk flavored neo-nazism is the way forward :(
I guess it’d be nice if I had a victim complex big enough to obsess over other countries instead of my own, but I’m sorry, I can barely think over Fox News raging about how white Christians and Donald Trump are victims in the background.
So you know there are nazis in Ukraine and that the US materially supports them and you’re mad that it’s being discussed? Stupid or nazi, if not both
I’m sick of finger wagging over what other nations are doing juxtaposed with shameless fawning over the righteousness their own governments.
I’m sick of obsessions over how awful NATO is for their involvement in Ukraine, from people who turn around, and in the same breath, praise the virtues of yet another post WWII ‘liberation war’, like the Ukraine War will somehow not end in disaster like every. Single. One. Can you even name a post WWII intervention that ended well?
But noooo, those last hundred interventions were totally different than this one! Yeah, that lines up with historical precedent, sure.
You have no right to finger wag about westerners living in a bubble. Or intervening in another country.
And no. I am not a Nazi.
So Lemmy.ml can either get an ounce of self humility, not a lot, just a little. Or they can take their downvote barrage.
Nobody cares about your downvotes pseud, cry about it
There’s fascists in the US government right now, does that justify an invasion of the US? Stupid question, to you of course it does
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