Telemarketer should’ve been number 1.
Haven’t you noticed? People love to be advertised at these days.
Ignoring phone calls is the highlight of my day. Every day. For years.
Kill me please.
Yes, my PR Specialist told me so it has to be true.
Which column?
Unfortunately sales calls are extremely effective.
Art is important for people’s well being, which is important for essential workers’ ability to work. Weird thst artists are considered less essential than telemarketers.
I recall watching a singer saying something like the following during an interview “If art and culture are so worthless, return all the time you spent watching movies and series, return all the time you spent listening to music, all the poems and lyrics you sang with friends or to loved ones. I won’t ask you to return the stories you read because it’s clear you don’t read.”
I can possibly see an argument that “artist” isn’t an essential job because people make loads of art when it’s not their job anyway. Nobody’s doing telemarketing as their hobby
However I very much doubt that this was the actual context for whatever this graphic was trying to show
I can’t even joke “when has art ever sold dick pills?” because colorful gas station packages conceivably outsell telemarketers on that front.
non-essential jobs is about everyone with a MBA
I was told once there was an MBA program offered through work and I could think was something like, “Why would I want a degree in bull shit when I already have a useful degree?” (Mechanical Engineering)
You can tell this is a poll of what people perceive to be the important jobs because doctor is #1. The most important jobs by sector in order of importance for developed nations is
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power supply- we all need electricity and few of us have the ability to generate it ourselves
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water supply- getting enough clean water for your day to cook and wash is a near full time job. For Americans a gallon of water is roughly 8lbs and your average toilet uses 3-5 gallons per flush. It would take much of the day to get and purify the water you use
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sanitation workers- this the poll got right. The folks collecting waste do more directly for public health than most doctors could hope to do.
I’m honestly surprised that cleaner and garbage collector are as high up there on the list as they are because those seem to be jobs that society generally looks down on.
At least the graphic has that going for it.
I wonder if doctors get elevated on these polls because people feel like it is a more unattainable skill.
I would imagine a lot of people (falsely) assume that it would be easy to plop people into power plants to keep them running, but harder to replace doctors.
My completely unknowledgeable take is that if we had to pick and choose people for the post apocalypse job hunt, we would want way more mechanics and engineers than doctors. Doctors need a lot of hard to obtain stuff to do the most doctor-ey part of their jobs, and if we aren’t worried about laws and regulations, then we don’t need them for things like prescriptions.
Most of what they would be needed for in that scenario to me seems like emergency care, like first aid, which you don’t really need all the superfluous med school training for.
Meanwhile, the hydroelectric dam that the new post apocalypse group is forming at needs a lot of varied disciplines and specialties just to keep it running.
I assume this is why we hear about foreign actors targeting power stations more than hospitals.
Without power all those hospitals are nearly useless. Sure there are backup generators but they only run the bare minimum and only for so long.
Disable the power grid and the affects will be catastrophic on any developed nation. All the food will be spoiled within a few days to a few weeks. No business will be able to run including gas stations. Most communication will be down.
The whole area grinds to a halt untill power can be restored. Do enough damage to take out the power for a week to a large city and the damage will be incalculable. Not to mention the lives lost in that time.
This is also why GWB tried to redo the US electrical grid but failed. It is a huge target that needs to be updated.
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I used to think this was true while working for a B2B company as a graphic designer. Everything just seemed pointless like I wasn’t contributing anything meaningful to the world. But I do think that art in its many forms contributes meaningfully to culture in general and can also be quite powerful when used well. History of graphic design shows just how influential designs were in Nazi Germany and how similar techniques are still used today. Then there is the matter of UI design and how it’s increasingly become essential today. While most applications it’s fine to have a frustrating piece of garbage, UI is rather important for things like medical systems, car displays, and other areas where getting it wrong could mean life or death. Unfortunately my job is still pretty useless to society regardless of these points made. I’ll go back to my corner now.
I used to think this was true while working for a B2B company as a graphic designer. Everything just seemed pointless like I wasn’t contributing anything meaningful to the world.
You could say similar things about company doctors that just try to get people back to work without caring for their wellbeing. Companies do not necessarily bring out the best possible use of skills.
company doctors
Never heard of this outside of medical facilities. I don’t know how it could possibly be cost effective to employ a doctor because management thinks people are out sick too much—fire the fucking manager that can’t keep the office staffed.
As someone who works for a major healthcare company - they hire doctors so they can claim to have legitimacy in denying claims. If their doctors say that something is “unnecessary” or there is an alternative, it’s better for legal purposes than just any old person saying it. Even though we all know those doctors aren’t the ones in charge and are most likely pushed by the people above to make certain decisions.
Without art, what’s the meaning?
Shareholder value
Calling graphic design like the image implies for art is far too generous.
Ok go make your own 🤷♂️
My ability to make this has no influence on whether or not it’s art.
Just because a graphic designers product is visual does not make it art. Art is worthwhile to loose yourself in, it inspires emotion, it makes you think. Graphic design like this does nothing of the sort.
The real subtext here is that if you actually tried your hand at it, you would see there is actually some artistic understanding that is required to do good graphic design work.
Art comes in many forms. I’m sorry you’re so close minded and gatekeep-y about it.
Keep your shitty opinion to yourself, I fap to unixporn
I don’t know about you, but this graphic inspires emotion in me. That emotion is anger at how little our society values art.
That said, be careful with that line of thinking. That’s exactly the sort of stuff people say about modern art.
I was thinking about the “artist 71%”
Yes, this meme is more than just suggesting that the design of the poll is art
No, It’s implying the person making the graphic is an artist.
Artists make art, it’s kind of the definition of being an artist…
Artists also take shits, that doesn’t mean taking a shit is art.
Salvador Dali designed the original Chupa Chups logo. Rockwell drew food for magazine ads.
Artists gotta eat.
But what about telephone sanitisers, account executives, hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations executives, and management consultants?
Is this the list from Hitchhiker’s Guide?
yes
Sorry, why is cleaner #2 in the list?
Farmers, Engineers, Police/Fire/Ambulance, Teachers, etc…
Except for farmers humanity has gone quite a long time without them
Edit to clear up confusion about the wording: I meant that we need farmers, the rest not so much
Only in the professional sense, medicine and engineering as concepts of let’s not have these people die of what we know to be preventable has been around a lot longer than agriculture.
I am not sure what your point is. Society will collapse if all the farmers stop doing their work. Seems pretty important to me.
I read it that way first as well but I think it’s intended the other way: “for everyone except farmers” …
Yeah, I believe the intended reading should have a comma after farmers, which would clarify that “them” at the end of the sentence is only referring to engineers, police/fire/ambulance, teachers, etc…
EDIT: actually now that I think about it I don’t know that a comma alone would fix it, but I still support the comma there.
The romans had engineers and fire fighting crews. Nearly every society has had some kind of police/army/guard to enforce laws. Farmers actually opened the door to most other jobs/careers because people didn’t have to rely on themselves to grow or collect their own food which left more time to become an engineer, learn math, become a salesman or any other job that could be filled.
Nearly every society has had some kind of police/army/guard to enforce laws.
Big citation needed here. Many societies didn’t have a professional army but rather armed citizens who went to war when needed and had other occupations otherwise. See for example the second amendment which wanted a “well regulated Militia” instead of a professional army. Also this is different from a police force which isn’t universal either. Many watch each other or have rotating shifts or something which isn’t the same as a police that necessarily stands above the law to enforce it.
this link goes into light detail of how laws were written and enforced in ancient times, starting with tribal or clan based blood fueds and eventually turning to a more societal run and funded system.
Hey, cleaners are second most important, they must be paid super well, right?
… Right?
Add health insurance CEO to the top of the non-essential jobs list.
Good thing we’re getting rid of those immigrants. That should free up loads of artist, telemarketer, social media manager, and PR specialist jobs.
Always remember, music is also art. Now imagine a world where theres no music. You can’t listen to anything while driving, riding the bus, going shopping etc.
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So you clear water? Then you are in the cleaner category.
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If you think artists are non-essential, try teaching a technophobic boomer to renew their driver license through a terminal command.
A good UI has nothing to do with art. In fact, art leads to terrible UI.
UX designers are artists. UX design is art.
This is too philosophical to be practical imo.
If the argument is that everything that requires creativity (read: requires independent thoughts and conclusions) is art, then the definition starts to become useless.
UX design is creative, but it isn’t always art, following rigid accessibility guidelines set by governing bodies isn’t art, even if you sometimes need to be creative in your implementation.
Sometimes terrible art, but still art.
