They aren’t doing this out of Altruism, mind you. They know damn well that the world runs on Linux admins, and they want the ecosystem to survive so they can use it as a customer base later.
And Linux should not survive by altruism, but by actual dependency.
lol, $100k+… HP revenue in 2024 was $53,559,000k. (Dell same year $88,000,000k and Lenovo $69,000,000k, so ~$50B to $90B)
I let you calculate the percentage but… I’d guesstimate it’s approximately nothing.
Revenue is not operational profit
Right… which… is why I wrote revenue and not operational profit? Was I unclear? What should I have shared instead? Please feel free to clarify directly with whatever you believe would be better and why, we can all learn.
What is this condescending tone, is this what they call redditor energy
Were you not condescending? Don’t you believe you started this?
You could have said :
- Revenue is not precise enough, operational profit would be a better metric
- Operational profit is more representative of the situation and for HP it’s [insert value]
or basically anything that prompts a discussion by kindly clarifying.
Instead you basically said “Apples are not oranges” and now you are saying replies are toxic.
This adds nothing to the topic at hand, sorry, but they’re right; that kind of snark is super Reddit. No offense ofc
I’m not sure you’re understanding my perspective so I can make it explicit : I took their comment as snarky, not helpful, trying to make their view as objective without helping me and others understanding why their position was better.
Take a deep breath.
Revenue says basically nothing in this kind of context. HP’s earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.
earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.
Genuinely confused now, are you saying “your nothing” is different from “my nothing”?
I was really consufed by your chain of comments.
You stated revenue, which doesn’t say anything about profit. Then you argue that that is true and say that is why you posted revenue.
Which is why I posted the profit or HP of 2024
I think we can all agree that 100k is a drop in the bucket for HP.
What should I have shared instead?
I’m guessing operational profit
Damn, sounds like a wild guess though, how about revenue? /s
I end up very concerned by this kind of thing. Big money in the Linux space very frequently (though not always) creates more closed, proprietary Linuxes, rather than expanding and improving the open-source wider ecosystem.
Proprietary linuxes? What does that mean in reality? Do you mean android?
ChromeOS too.
Soon subscription is coming up for fwupd
“This HPLinux only works on snapd. Please enable snapd on systemd in order to boot”
Black screen of death: “A green pixel is faulty on your display. The driver cannot output any image until it’s fixed”
Monitor ran out of cyan, can’t show image. Please replace with Genuine HP Color Display Cartridge^tm to correct.
Can someone ELI5? Is this extremely token gesture an appreciative nod or strings (visible or not) attached trojan horse?
HP uses fwupd on some models and 100k is cheaper than hiring a single engineer for in house contributions.
Linux desktop marketshare is going up, though it’s definitely not huge. Windows 11 is not particularly popular, and very resource-heavy in a time where those same resources are exploding in price. I’d imagine that hardware companies want to hedge their bets a bit and supporting Linux is this manner is pretty safe.
It’s worth noting that HP is also one of the bigger hardware vendors and a lot of servers run Linux, so again firmware updates are probably a good thing you support.
Thats pretty great of HP tbh, still fuck them im never buying another HP laptop after my last one suffered from a case of HP (Hinge Problems)
Hostile Printers
HdP means SoB in Spanish. Most accurate name ever
Hey, putas are at least useful for something and they’re still human, as are their hijos.
Let’s go! I want more of this! Better hardware/firmware support is always appreciated.
Still, fuck HP.
FYI HP (and Dell, but not Lenovo) are priority targets on the BDS list. Please do not support them even if they support Linux.
What’s the “BDS” list? Never heard of it.
I read it as “BSD” at first glance and i was like “damn, i didn’t knew the Linux communty declared war on BSD” 😭
Siemens is on there?
As an electrical engineer, I guess I know which company is NOT selling my circuit breakers now.
Sooo, i get it but this still doesn’t explain what BDS is. Boycott Dis Shit?
edit- my ADHD ass missed the link.
Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions
I hate when I already don’t buy from any of these companies, so I can’t really join the boycott for this. At least some of them I am boycotting for other reasons, not just because they make a shit product. Intell, for example, I’ll buy from AMD every time first.
AMD’s not just in Israel, Lisa Su has been visiting the white house lately.
Sadly, AMD is in Israel as well, although to a lesser degree.
… Why… or how, would McDonald’s support Israel and the IDF?
I mean, that seems such an easy target to avoid and just go “I’m staying out of this one” for any company, but McDonald’s? That just has to be for the sport
they give away free food to the idf.
Cruelly ironic, considering the IDF used starvation as a weapon.
even more so when you consider that they’re using healthier ingredients for the idf instead of the toxic sludge that they serve to americans.
Bdsm…
I read it as “BDSM Movement”…
Like ATM machine.
I might shorten this to BDSM in the future though…
Boycott divest and sanction israel
Damn I just looked that up and WIX is on the list. WTF, WIX? Damnit
They’re an Israeli company so they’re included by default. I think they just get their own entry as they a decently large organisation.
Oh wow I did not realize that’s where they are from. Really too bad because they make quality filters. That’s okay I will buy a different brand regardless
I believe it’s Wix the website builder, not Wix the filter company.
Hooray!
Meh, they’re shit anyways.
Greats news more support for Linux, Two weeks ago I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad 2in1 and while I was on their website checking the warranty, I decided to see if there were BIOS drivers and there were. I tried using fwupd and it didn’t find anything and when I searched found that this model does not have Linux support and I couldn’t simply use the terminal, it was only possible from Windows, I had to download the .exe and Hiren’s to update the firmware.
Great news for the foundation, still sorry HP but you have burned me regarding your printers
ik HP has a Linux laptop and all but this company is definitely the last company I thought would do smt like this
me too but i don’t think its a good idea to to trust their good gesture yet; their product lines are still hella closed and not allow for much customization. even in the rare instances they allow to they impose arbitrary limitation and/or require their software
Think about it. Right now, windows is a fucking hog of an OS. It takes up huge space, gas huge overhead, and needs huge amounts of ram. Ram and storage are expensive as hell right now.
Linux can run well on a laptop on decade old tech (One of my old laptops is literally from 2016 and runs Linux mint butter smooth).
So by promoting Linux, HP can sell a laptop with less ram and less storage, that doesn’t run like shit. Saves them loads of money. They may not give a flying fuck about Linux. This still helps their bottom line.
Windows 11 is the best thing that Microsoft ever did for Linux
hmm true that’d make sense
high-usage vendors like hp (and dell, lenovo previously reported on) have to start paying-in to support the operating costs of the service.
they certainly aren’t doing it because they want to.
Whenever HP supports something, I’m left with the thought of ‘cui bono’ .
They’ve still got a pretty hefty server division and increasingly not using HP/UX, no?
Self preservation seems like a fairly obvious motivator
HP and HPE are separate companies.
Ahh yes of course, I guess I went straight to assuming it was HPE doing the investment
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