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This is all theater.
trump is going to “save” tik tok after starting the initial push to ban it (for the wrong reasons) to pretend he did something for you. Worst part is that all of the no/low info voters and non voters will eat it up.
It’s the equivalent of a person pushing you into the middle of the street and at the very last second, that same person tells the drivers to all stop. “Wow, I owe you my life!”
And now, this adds two layers:
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You think trump and the Supreme Court are colluding? now they get to say, nah uh!!! Even though again, this is all convoluted.
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trump gets to look “stronger” than the “highest court in the land” to help delude the next generation of low info tiktok folks.
P.s. The Chinese “protest” apps are going to mine the FUCK out of these millions of phones in the brief window they have them. Also, when the kids inevitably move back to tiktok, majority of them will leave these other apps installed on their phones, dormant and collecting in the background.
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why not have better data protection laws instead
Because that would have hurt their donors
i don’t understand why everyone wants to push trump, who already doesn’t care for the constitution, to just unilaterally decide not to obey laws passed by congress? like what are we doing?
TikTok being banned is good. Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter should be banned as well. Closed, source, manipulative and harmful algorithms should be banned and these apps all use dark patterns in their design.
The fediverse and open social networks where the algorithms are open source and well understood and the user is allowed to choose their own algorithms is the only safe way to use social media.
I disagree, I think this ban sets a bad precedent. What governments should do is pass stricter data protection laws, as well as banning the many addictive design patterns that manipulate people into scrolling for hours and hours. For example infinite scroll. Imagine how much less people would doom scroll if they had to manually click “yes, I want to continue to page 7 of my twitter feed”
A government that can ban social media sites is going to base their choices of which ones to ban on their preferences - not yours.
The problem is not the government got to choose - in a functioning democracy, the government would represent the will of the people.
The problem is this democracy is fucked.
The EU seems to be handling it fine, the point is not targeting specific sites but targeting user hostile behaviors against citizens
That is the thing that fear mongering against the Government always fails to address.
Yes, banning one thing out of ten that all do the same thing is wrong. Yes, we do not want to give the Government the ability to ban specific sites because history.
But banning or regulating algorithms, which are the actual problem, does not stop social media sites from existing. It just stops them from being able to manipulate massive groups of people by hiding/pushing the information the company wants one to see.
Unfortunately, the majority doesn’t see algorithmic social media as a bad thing because they really do like echo chambers, and politicians don’t ever seem to understand what a “root issue” is.
Well it’s a good thing they banned TikTok because it has “Closed, source, manipulative and harmful algorithms” and not for some other reason
Trump may even welcome that, considering that Truth Social is just Mastodon.
isn’t it a mastodon fork?
and considering it’s probably blocked by like 98% of the fediverse, i don’t think he likes it very much
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone is it still a fork? It thought it started that way to get something done quickly, but thay they moved to a proprietary platform. I could be wrong, but do have any info on instances blocking Truth Social? Are the instances that don’t block Truth Social?
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do have any info on instances blocking Truth Social? Are the instances that don’t block Truth Social?
Almost nobody blocks Truth Social. Everyone seems more preoccupied with blocking Threads over actual far right content.
Non-American here. This actually goes a long way in helping me to avoid US-centric news and content for the next 4 years. So, there’s that.
Pretty gross being violently ruled by a few fossils in wacky costumes.
The law allowing this happen was already passed, by a democratically* elected government. All the court is saying is that the law isn’t unconstitutional. They don’t decide what laws are “right” or “wrong”, merely that it doesn’t (in their opinion) contradict the constitution.
*how democratic it is is debatable, but still… an election did take place that put congress (and the president) in power
I’m really surprised they’re not pushing the web version, which can operate in a way not covered by this ban.
It also can’t track the users nearly as well.
No, but I imagine they can still run profitable ads, and probably more effectively than most websites.
Despite what TikTok might claim, I’m fairly certain they’ve never actually turned a profit. Data collection, and influencing the American was always the point.
With that data collection, their algorithm for targeted marketing is on a completely different level. I completely believe they’re profitable.
Not only do you have knowledge into people who are likely buyers, you can put them into a buying mood right before showing them the ad so they’re primed for it. Then on top of THAT, you don’t have to design, film or edit the ad - you just pay an influencer to do it for you. It makes it faster, easier and cheaper to AstroTurf brand awareness than ever before.
Relatedly, the only people I know ordering things from Shien or Temu are on TikTok.
The platform isn’t creating revenue, the traffic and data collection do however create lots and lots of revenue so it really just depends on how you want to parse out their financial situation.
Unanimous?! Makes you wonder what they know that we might not.
Nothing to do with the data collection, the court was ruling on the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act’s constitutionality.
