Summary
Americans are posting videos about 3D-printed guns on the Chinese video app RedNote, despite the content being illegal in China.
While some users are uncomfortable with the topic, others see it as an opportunity for cultural exchange.
The future of TikTok remains uncertain as the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the ban.
The US is gonna ban RedNote so fast. Watch and see. A special session of Congress. Matching funds on bribes to the Supreme Court.
They can’t let this go unchecked.
It’s up to the president now.
The bill basically says, “if the president thinks a foreign government controls an app that could be bad, he can ban it.” Section im referring to: “(2) a social media company that is controlled by a foreign adversary country and determined by the President to present a significant threat to national security”
Actual law: DIVISION H-- PROTECTING AMERICANS FROM FOREIGN ADVERSARY CONTROLLED APPLICATIONS ACT
Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act
(Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok). However, the prohibition does not apply to a covered application that executes a qualified divestiture as determined by the President.
Under the division, a foreign adversary controlled application is an application directly or indirectly operated by (1) ByteDance, Ltd., TikTok, their subsidiaries, successors, related entities they control, or entities controlled by a foreign adversary country; or (2) a social media company that is controlled by a foreign adversary country and determined by the President to present a significant threat to national security. (Here, a social media company excludes any website or application primarily used to post product reviews, business reviews, or travel information and reviews.)
Sidenote: I’m fairly certain that means the law would not allow the President to ban a social media site run via activity pub and hosted by the people, because it is not controlled by a foreign government.
3D printed guns are a meme. Most of them require parts of functional guns such as the barrels, And they require regular ammunition.
The part you can easily print, however, is the receiver.
The receiver is the part that’s legally a firearm. While I think it’s neat I can customize my firearms, I do acknowledge that someone who is prohibited from owning a gun can very easily print a receiver and order the rest of the parts from Palmetto State Armory to get a perfectly-functional firearm without any background check being performed.
I also don’t know the solution to the problem though. As 3D printing, desktop CNC, and other forms of DIY manufacturing improve in quality and decrease in price, it will be very hard to regulate home-brew weapons.
I like my ghost guns intangible as well. /$
Electro chemical machining can make a barrel.
But, idk how any of what you said makes them a “meme”. You can buy a barrel online for cheap, also ammo, and I don’t have to go through a government check. That’s what a lot of these people want to avoid.
Electro chemical machining can make a barrel.
Yes, but that’s not 3d printing any more.
It’s a separate process requiring separate tools, materials and skills.
But you can make anything with that additional process. SO it’s going to be difficult for a government to lock down those additional processes.
I can make barrels and stuff like that on a milling machine and a lathe. Not just shitty parts but better than most big manufacturers put out. Government can’t control manufacturing.
Still not 3d printing.
edit: Typo
In most countries, the barrel or other pressures bearing parts are the regulated piece. We are the weird ones for regulating receivers instead.
Well, the article references Americans, I’m American, so okay?
Europeans can also get guns mailed to their front door, are we just comparing gun laws?
Europeans can also get guns mailed to their front door, are we just comparing gun laws?
I mean, there’s a lot of context surrounding licensing and pre-approval to get that mail order heater in Europe. Local laws vary, yadda yadda
And if you collect old guns and have a C&R license, you too can get guns delivered to your door in America.
Oh yeah, 1000%. Also, with a C&R license, you’re not legally purchasing a “firearm”. It’s a curio or relic, but yeah, point still stands.
Also, none of that has anything to do with the discussion at hand, which was sorta my point.
I have my 03-FFL, and “Curio & Relic” is a classification that firearms can fall into, defined as firearms manufactured 50-years or more ago. Legally, by definition, you are still purchasing a firearm. You’ve just had more background checks to bypass some of the rules in most states about transfers, if the firearm you are buying qualifies as a “Curio & Relic”.
Cool man
It mentions sending videos about them to China. Where most of those videos are useless because the parts and ammo are not sold there.
Okay so a lot of work to create the barrel, but the gun still takes 9mm ammunition. And if someone in China can get their hands on ammo they can get their hands on a gun.
The 3D gun thing in China is frickin’ hilarious. Xi and the CCP are gonna go apeshit about that.
if you printed a gun in china, where would you get ammo
Or the metal parts needed to make a “3d printed gun” function as anything other than a random suicide generator.
You can’t print 100% of a functional gun on a consumer printer unless you are willing to accept it blowing up in your hand after a shot or 2.
If you have a 3d printer, and a bit of electrical know how, you can actually machine most of the metal parts.
Trying to machine parts for a gun with “a bit of electrical know how” sounds like suicide by stupidity to me. Especially if you’re going to DIY the ammo as well…
Not actually true anymore but they’re not very performant.
Fine for a handgun to kill someone up close with, but it’s not like making a machine to dohickey someone a la Abe is very difficult.
americans and bringing guns places they absolutely shouldn’t be, name a better duo
Look man, I just don’t see why my 6 year old shouldn’t be able to bring his sawed off in his back pack. If someone tries to shoot up the school he’ll be able to defend his class. I always tell him to keep 1 chambered just in case.
As much as I hate people going to an even more security disaster of an app, the amount of “fuck you” energy I’ve been seeing from everyone that’s moved over there is so god damn funny.
Americans are posting videos about 3D-printed guns
Cultural Exchange
It’s always cute seeing yanks try and act like one of the big boy countries, talking about their “Culture”
It’s always cute seeing yanks try and act like one of the big boy countries, talking about their “Culture”
Lmao please share which “superior culture” you’re from
He’s a brit, we have our fair share of “cultured” people over here too =P
Forcing another cultural identity onto someone. You must be English.
I mean you said you were from Northern Ireland, so you’re a brit
Once again you are forcing a national identity onto me when talking about cultural identities.
Not to mention demonstrating a very poor knowledge of the Good Friday Agreement.
are 3D printed guns legal in the US?
Home made guns are legal (for the most part) as long as you are making them for yourself.
Until very recently, making a decent gun took a lot of skill, and was pretty dangerous if something wasn’t done correctly.
Part of the issue with gun laws is that gun parts, by themselves, are fairly unregulated. You can buy a gun barrel off the Internet with zero paperwork. You can buy optics, grips, springs, pins, etc without any regulations.
So you can print a gun frame, then buy everything else online, and it’s all perfectly legal… In most states… If you don’t resell, or do anything illegal with it.
The main catch is, if you can legally buy a gun, you can legally make that same gun.
If that gun would be illegal to buy, it’s also illegal to make (full auto, suppressed, high capacity, etc.) but the biggest problem is, with the rise of CNC machines, and high quality 3d printing, how would anyone know?
I used to lurk in s homemade gun forum back in the 00’s. My favorite was the yooper assault rifle made out of 2x4’s and hydraulic tubing with a grease nipple primer holder.
Man that is some Slingshot Channel level genious.
Joerg laugh
Now do Tiananmen Square.
I have been told that China pushes NO PROPAGNADA on RedNote because they have a NO POLITICS policy.
And the person who told me that did not see the issue.
This timeline is quite a ride
