Hope all the protest voters/non-voters are happy.
Biden sanctioned only 4 settlers in February. He may have expanded it to a few dozen, but this was a useless move when there’s literally over 600,000 settlers breaking international law. Heck, there’s more than 4 murders of Palestinians by settlers per month. Biden did the equivalent of leaving a penny as a tip, and it’s just as insulting.
Biden resorting to not-even-half-measures? Color me gobsmacked.
We all knew who he was going to back.
Who’s is “we all”?
There were a large cohort of Americans who were protesting the Biden Harris administration and promoting the anti-vote for Harris. Some blame this group for Harris’ loss. In my personal experience, it seemed like the vast majority of people were not aware of Trump’s history or intentions regarding Israel. When I tried to inform people, I was banned from a community on Lemmy for being antisemitic and a genocide lover.
Those people were willfully ignorant.
Everyone with a fucking brain knew that while Harris was a shitty choice on the issue of the genocide in Palestine Trump was much much shittier.
All those fucks talking about how there wasn’t a real choice were, at best, useful idiots.
That large cohort couldn’t find their own asses with a map and a flashlight.
It was entirely a manipulation tactic originating from the Trump campaign.
Non-stupid people knew who he was going to support. Not even smart people, just not-stupid people.
Wow, what a surprise!
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JoeDonaldI hope all the people that refused to vote democrat over the Palestinian genocide take full responsibility and ownership for everything that follows with Trump’s foreign policy. They approved of and enabled this.
Narrator: They would not take responsibility for their actions nor acknowledge their complicity in furthering human suffering. In fact, they would use their experience in mental gymnastics honed in defending their patronage of Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby, and that local coffee shop that advertises that they specifically don’t use fair trade beans and whose owner cruises around town in a replica of the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard, adorned with a bumper sticker that reads:
“The owner of this vehicle has never seen the popular TV Show ‘The Dukes of Hazzard’ or any of its cinematic adaptations and really just unironically likes the Confederate Battle Flag and the ideals of human slavery that it represents. How the hell are we going to fit this whole statement on a bumper sticker? Wait. You’re not typing that out too are you? You know what, fuck it. They paid up front and this gag is just getting too long without adding much in the way of humor to the situation. Just ship it.”
Trump was always at least as enthusiastic for the genocide as Biden.
Trump Says He Would Let Netanyahu Finish the Job in Gaza, Says ‘Biden Is So Bad for Israel’
Which is why the dickheads who enabled him (but claimed to support Palestine ) are dickheads
But didn’t you hear! Trump single-handedly managed to get a ceasefire deal with Israel and HAMAS signed.
Clearly something Genocide Joe refused to do!
(The Biden administration have been working on a ceasefire deal for months. Now the elections in the West are over, there is no need for the war to continue.)
They won’t.
You’re gonna see something like “Joe was nowhere near as bad but still imperfect so we either begged for or allowed Trump to happen to pwn the Dems”.
Somehow, to them, that means it’s still Biden’s fault for their voting for Trump.
I see the democrats are still blaming everyone but themselves for 20mill of them staying home.
Nope. There was no genocide-free option. The Democratic Party failed catastrophically; it’s on them, not those who abstained from voting for garbage vs garbage.
Expecting voters to just pick the lesser of two evils forever is how we allow the rich and those with a big platform to slowly shift both parties’ politics in their favour. Some people see this zero-sum game for what it is and refuse to partake (vote). The only way to fix this at this point is by revolting.
Soo… Are you gonna help cause a revolt?
They’ll quibble about some minor aspect of messaging and will stay home.
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I am not American or in the USA, so no.
But we have had a pretty similar experience with the 2 dominant political parties here in the UK, albeit to a smaller extent. I cancelled my Labour Party membership back in 2019, when I realised they’d rebranded from actually representing working people, to just being the Tories sugarcoated in red. They are not a viable alternative to the Tories, and neither offer the much-needed change our declining society needs.
Thankfully, we do have other parties on our ballots, so I didn’t have to abstain, and voted Lib Dem last year. But if we did have a strict two-party system, and that was the state of it, you can bet that I wouldn’t bother with the ballot and would be out demonstrating on the streets.
Yeah, the Red Tory label was used just like Genocide Joe over here to suppress the vote among those incapable of making nuanced decisions. And it worked here in the UK just as well as it did in the US.
Indeed, they want us to think it’s a left vs right situation so that we’re busy fighting ourselves when really it’s the oligarchy vs the people. We need to stop being distracted by the circus.
Great, what’s your next excuse for not deciding?
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Yeah you cant expect people to vote for the lesser evil 3 times in a row. The democrats won and had 4 years to enact drastic enough changes to not be called “the lesser evil” anymore, but they didnt. Now they have to deal with the consequences of their own inaction.
There’s no possibility of democracy delivering perfect candidates. So you are always going to be voting for the lesser evil if you expect a candidate to be elected. But that’s fine, don’t participate, it might pollute your pristine moral purity. Just stay the fuck out of the way when the time comes.
So you decided to vote for the greater evil to teach the lesser evil a lesson? That’s a galaxy brain move there.
Before you decide to say something stupid about voting third party, in the reality we live in if you don’t vote for major party candidate A you’re helping major party candidate B win. It’s not an ideal system, but unfortunately reality is often not ideal.
Who said im from the US? Im just observing their stupidity from the outside.
This is your fault if you didn’t vote Harris.
What you’re really saying here is that no one can expect you to anticipate the predictable realities you live amongst.
If only Harris had won, then we could at least have had some hand-wringing!
Huurrr duuurr Harris so bad
If you think this tid hitnis bad, this is day 1 of a 4 year tenure. Palestinians are going to be fucked beyond and it all could have been avoided
99% of the people whining about Genocide Joe never gave a shit about the Palestinians. They were just using concern trolling as an excuse not to make unpalatable decisions.
99% of the people bitching about those people also don’t care about Palestinians though let’s be honest.
Yeah, the democrats would at least of said it was a shame while they killed them! Trump mudering them is just meaner!
Trump is removing sanctions on west bank settlers - this wasn’t even in the realm of possibility for Harris’ camp.
This isn’t “just meaner” this is accelerating genocide.
No point arguing with someone who is only capable of simplistic, binary thinking.
Telling Israeli villagers on occupied land in Palestine that they aren’t allowed to directly do business with American corporations isn’t a punishment. Sanctions on settlers have no practical effect whatsoever, and if you believe they do, then they were effective at the only thing they were imposed for, and that’s public relations. It allowed democrats to pretend they were doing something useful.
In other words, you’re gullible.
A lot of settlers have ties to the US. Some of the most virulently ultranationalist of those assholes are from Long Island and New Jersey. Sanctions, and especially a travel ban, would make a huge difference.
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